@1196696208879865857

 

She's not even pretending anymore, and the story linked doesn't actually mention any Tory candidate. He was suspended over alleged anti-semitic comments about the Holocaust. Is that not worth mentioning because it doesn't fit a particular narrative?

 

This, and the Peter Oborne article, go hand-in-hand.

Edited November 19, 20195 yr by blacksquare

Bloody hell.

 

I didn't quite realise just how much of a nasty piece of work Laura Kuennsberg was until recently, but it really has become apparent with such crystal clarity.

 

She's being paid her £250k salary for what is supposed to be an "impartial" political commentator role, but she's essentially Boris Johnson's mouthpiece and she's ramping it up atm. Grim.

100% agreed. Grim is thr word. BBTory news just needs axing at this point. We don't need it, and this vile evil authoritarian proto-fascist Tory gkvernment has shown just how easily an authoritarian government can co-opt it and turn it into pro-government state propaganda. In the sea!

So a lot of us here now prefer ITV equivalent Robert Peston (who a lot of people find annoying, a bit unfairly imo) to the BBC's Laura Kuennsberg. :lol: Never would have thought that in a million years!

 

She's not even pretending anymore, and the story linked doesn't actually mention any Tory candidate.

 

Where is the link for this story? :unsure:

 

 

Where is the link for this story? :unsure:

 

@1196788140821897216

Imagine if that were a Labour candidate!! BbTory would never stop. The Tories under Bojo have lurched so far right, these bnp nutjobs have joined - and their chickens have come home to roost.

@1196788140821897216

 

Oh it wasn't showing up on my computer for some reason before...thanks for reposting.

Oh it wasn't showing up on my computer for some reason before...thanks for reposting.

 

Oh, no, you hadn’t missed it.

 

Laura Kuennsberg didn’t post a story about it, just one about Labour.

Edited November 19, 20195 yr by blacksquare

@1196903373238341634

Laura Kuenssberg finds it ‘daft’ that people have an issue with the Tories rebranding themselves as ‘FactCheck UK’ during the debate. BBCRealityCheck are the only fact checker that haven’t responded. The other factcheckers condemned it as an attempt to mislead voters.

 

Fortunately, someone has been doing their job at the BBC.

@1196932286937260032

Edited November 20, 20195 yr by blacksquare

It’s refreshing to see people waking up to the walking propaganda outfit that is BBC News. We’ve been dismissed as being loons or cybernats for years now for correctly pointing out that BBC is a unionist Tory propaganda outfit and nothing more. BBC Scotland especially horrendous to the point that it’s now completely unwatchable. Thank god for STV

It’s refreshing to see people waking up to the walking propaganda outfit that is BBC News. We’ve been dismissed as being loons or cybernats for years now for correctly pointing out that BBC is a unionist Tory propaganda outfit and nothing more. BBC Scotland especially horrendous to the point that it’s now completely unwatchable. Thank god for STV

 

THIS!! It's state propaganda.

 

BBTory has been quoting a FAKE YOUTORY POLL THAT WAS RELEASED AN HOUR BEFORE THE DEBATES THAT CLAIMED BOJO WON, WITH A SAMPLE SIZE OF 100!!!!! Every other poll, with samples up to 30k each, have been massive victories for Corbyn, 70%, etc. YouTory published a fake poll and it's the only one BBTory used to inform their 'coverage'. Dystopian nightmare.

 

Can I just say how much I am enjoying 'Woke Oborne'? His article in the Guardian yesterday was class, and the rant at Kuenssberg's blatant bias on R2 the other week brilliant.

 

 

YES to Woke Oborne. :D

THIS!! It's state propaganda.

 

BBTory has been quoting a FAKE YOUTORY POLL THAT WAS RELEASED AN HOUR BEFORE THE DEBATES THAT CLAIMED BOJO WON, WITH A SAMPLE SIZE OF 100!!!!! Every other poll, with samples up to 30k each, have been massive victories for Corbyn, 70%, etc. YouTory published a fake poll and it's the only one BBTory used to inform their 'coverage'. Dystopian nightmare.

Do you have sources for these assertions?

 

I saw some claims last night about the YouGov poll results supposedly being released before the debate had even started. I saw nothing that convinced me that the alleged tweet was actually put out at the time claimed. Even if it was, it could still have been a cock-up. It is likely that YouGov will have prepared a tweet for at least three possible outcomes of their poll - a near 50-50 split, a clear Corbyn win and a clear Johnson win. You cannot rule out the possibility that one of them was released in error. Similar things have happened before

 

Where did the sample size of 100 come from? YouGov, along with other major pollsters, are signed up to a code of conduct. Among other things, that should forbid claiming that a reliable result can be obtained from a sample as small as 100. Can you provide links to these other polls?

 

 

It’s refreshing to see people waking up to the walking propaganda outfit that is BBC News. We’ve been dismissed as being loons or cybernats for years now for correctly pointing out that BBC is a unionist Tory propaganda outfit and nothing more. BBC Scotland especially horrendous to the point that it’s now completely unwatchable. Thank god for STV

 

I'm assuming you are not referring to a voting system here? :unsure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STV_(TV_channel)

 

The independent holder of the ITV franchise in North & Central Scotland (notably not the tory leaning border region which is lumped in with Cumbria in ITV Borders) and is the only part of the Channel 3 network not owned and operated by ITV Plc. It carries a lot of ITV content but the news and current affairs are all programmed locally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STV_(TV_channel)

 

The independent holder of the ITV franchise in North & Central Scotland (notably not the tory leaning border region which is lumped in with Cumbria in ITV Borders) and is the only part of the Channel 3 network not owned and operated by ITV Plc. It carries a lot of ITV content but the news and current affairs are all programmed locally.

 

OK, thank you for the clarification.

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Well, well.

Reality Check is good and all but it’s nowhere near as prominent as it needs to be. It was there during the referendum and I’m sure (although don’t want to state this as a fact) that the BBC themselves were critical of the level of exposing false information in the referendum.

 

Just look at the most recent example with the man saying more than 50% of people in the UK earn more than £80,000 as I put in the other thread. The Reality Check has rightly stated he is in the Top 5%

 

@1197824088250683399

 

However, how worthwhile is it posting this information 12 hours after the actual event, which was broadcast to potentially millions of viewers and then the clip was uploaded on their Twitter account without any statement that what he was saying was wrong, on a secondary account that may or may not be retweeted by the BBC News account. Particularly when all the information from reality check appears to be uploaded on social media accounts rather than broadcast on the TV.

 

There needs to be a reality check team on all political TV shows to immediately call out any false information.

It may be a silly thing, but the name of Reality Check itself feels wrong. Too authoritative and paternalistic, which I feel puts people on the defensive when checking it - don't underestimate people's willingness to disagree with reality. They themselves can be okay but as shown today, often too late.

 

Full Fact is for my money a far superior fact checker.

 

@1197764384099094530

 

Well, well.

 

Disturbing. That's the JOB of the supposed neutral news - to correctly say 'this person is lying', when they are - and, when they continually do so, to call them a liar. Indicative in that statement is that they would have to call Johnson at least a liar along with everyone else on the right perpetuating fake news, and they're not willing to do that.

 

God, imagine a universe where Johnson, or any future chancer, puts out a dodgy claim and in reporting on it, the BBC directly said after it 'Johnson has lied X times about similar subjects, you might find these links relevant'.

It is being alleged that the person who asked the first question on Thursday's Question Time (standard edition, not the leaders' show last night) was a Tory councillor. Yet, only the previous week, the chair of Brighton and Hove Lib Dems was told she couldn't be in the audience because local party officers were barred from the show in election campaigns. Of course, the likelihood is that the person involved failed to declare that he was a councillor, in which case this should perhaps be in the Tory lies thread.