Oh wow I didn’t know Leigh had written this! Hopefully it charts because that would be an incredible accomplishment

for a sec I thought she had written it solo and was positively impressed

but she's just part of a team of 6 people that wrote there song

This is 2nd on Spotify's Hot 50 UK playlist! One ahead of Harry and 2 ahead of Stormzy!

 

Not sure how much this playlist affects the spotify charts though. But it"s something? 🙃

It won’t have any effect unfortunately

for a sec I thought she had written it solo and was positively impressed

but she's just part of a team of 6 people that wrote there song

 

You are aware that the list of writers includes people that wrote and produced the actual music, aren't you? It's entirely conceivable that she wrote the lyrics herself.

She wrote it with Tich (Rachel Furner queen of Secret Love Song)

She wrote it with Tich (Rachel Furner queen of Secret Love Song)

DUMB FAME

This one has really passed me by & judging from its chart performance I can kinda see why. This is their 5th single in a row that has failed to capture my attention, what the hell has happened to them, their first 4 albums and singles were mostly fantastic (especially the Get Weird & Glory Days) singles. But after 'Reggaeton Lento' they've just gone on a downward spiral & don't seem to be recovering. The single choices on 'LM5' were terrible as well as the standalone singles they've released since then.

Really starting to worry about them, hopefully 2020 will be a better year for them.

I don't necessarily think a flop Christmas single is going to impact their career, but I feel like in some ways it's reflective of where they're currently at.

 

I really want them to turn it around, but I feel like they've seriously got their work cut out and need to PROPERLY pull it out of the bag when they next release something. I do think it's game over for them if they don't.

I don't necessarily think a flop Christmas single is going to impact their career, but I feel like in some ways it's reflective of where they're currently at.

 

I really want them to turn it around, but I feel like they've seriously got their work cut out and need to PROPERLY pull it out of the bag when they next release something. I do think it's game over for them if they don't.

It's not just a flop Christmas single though. Bounce Back was a flop, the album underperformed, Think About Us is their lowest charting single and Woman Like Me with everything thrown at it (X-Factor, Strictly, Brits Awards, big 'comeback' single etc etc) still isn't anywhere near being a million seller. The Cheat Codes collab before that also wasn't exactly a smash.

 

A song by Little Mix not even entering the top 200 is pretty shocking considering they had about eight singles in a row go Platinum from 2015 - 2017.

A song by Little Mix not even entering the top 200 is pretty shocking considering they had about eight singles in a row go Platinum from 2015 - 2017.

 

It did enter the charts... at #59, which is still a shit result mind you.

 

I think they're lucky that for whatever reason a lot of artists suddenly decided to release original Christmas songs this year, so One I've Been Missing has seemingly fallen under the radar as a flop.

It's not just a flop Christmas single though. Bounce Back was a flop, the album underperformed, Think About Us is their lowest charting single and Woman Like Me with everything thrown at it (X-Factor, Strictly, Brits Awards, big 'comeback' single etc etc) still isn't anywhere near being a million seller. The Cheat Codes collab before that also wasn't exactly a smash.

 

A song by Little Mix not even entering the top 200 is pretty shocking considering they had about eight singles in a row go Platinum from 2015 - 2017.

 

I don't think you read my post properly, when I said it's "reflective of where they're currently at" I meant taking everything else into account...

This one has really passed me by & judging from its chart performance I can kinda see why. This is their 5th single in a row that has failed to capture my attention, what the hell has happened to them, their first 4 albums and singles were mostly fantastic (especially the Get Weird & Glory Days) singles. But after 'Reggaeton Lento' they've just gone on a downward spiral & don't seem to be recovering. The single choices on 'LM5' were terrible as well as the standalone singles they've released since then.

 

Really starting to worry about them, hopefully 2020 will be a better year for them.

It's frustrating because I still think LM5 was far and away their best album; it was the messy rollout, the Syco departure and the terrible single choices that killed their momentum. I think they'd be in a much more favourable position if they'd released the likes of FYN/Wasabi/Monster In Me. Honestly though, it was probably Bounce Back that really cemented their decline. What a wretched choice for a 'comeback' single.

 

It's not just a flop Christmas single though. Bounce Back was a flop, the album underperformed, Think About Us is their lowest charting single and Woman Like Me with everything thrown at it (X-Factor, Strictly, Brits Awards, big 'comeback' single etc etc) still isn't anywhere near being a million seller. The Cheat Codes collab before that also wasn't exactly a smash.

 

A song by Little Mix not even entering the top 200 is pretty shocking considering they had about eight singles in a row go Platinum from 2015 - 2017.

I know for a fact the WLM situation has been explained to you before. The streaming ratios changed between the GD and LM5 eras, hence why its total sales appear 'underwhelming' in comparison to their GD singles. It was a smash, and I can't believe people are still trying to deny that (especially in light of their recent chart performance).

 

The TAU assessment is also sorta' unfair given that both its airplay and Spotify support was abysmal, plus it was hindered even further by the messy video rollout. I'll agree with you re. Bounce Back though. It really had no reason to flop as hard as it did besides being a poor song.

 

I don't necessarily think a flop Christmas single is going to impact their career, but I feel like in some ways it's reflective of where they're currently at.

 

I really want them to turn it around, but I feel like they've seriously got their work cut out and need to PROPERLY pull it out of the bag when they next release something. I do think it's game over for them if they don't.

Yeah, hard to disagree here. I think they're in a similar position to Katy (although perhaps not quite as bleak), in that if they release an undeniable banger like NRO then it'll smash, but anything middling or safe (like this single) will probably sink without a trace. I really hope they pull it out the bag; yet another wave of momentum after the 'Black Magic' revival would be slightly iconic.

I know for a fact the WLM situation has been explained to you before. The streaming ratios changed between the GD and LM5 eras, hence why its total sales appear 'underwhelming' in comparison to their GD singles. It was a smash, and I can't believe people are still trying to deny that (especially in light of their recent chart performance).

This is so important - the ratio change *is* notable! The fact it's being ignored seems quite convenient, because to me, Woman Like Me was an undeniable smash hit. It wasn't remotely a problem for the LM5 era, regardless of what people's personal opinions are (and it's far from my fave LM single!)

Also when did 1m become the barometer for success anyway? I know in the past few years it's been way easier to hit than it used to be, but to suggest a song underperformed cause it didn't make 1m (regardless of the ratio change) is absurd.

This is so important - the ratio change *is* notable! The fact it's being ignored seems quite convenient, because to me, Woman Like Me was an undeniable smash hit. It wasn't remotely a problem for the LM5 era, regardless of what people's personal opinions are (and it's far from my fave LM single!)

 

It's so bizarre. I've never seen a fanbase so intent in underplaying how successful a single was. It was literally the only aspect of the LM5 era that wasn't an underperformance. :lol:

 

This is so important - the ratio change *is* notable! The fact it's being ignored seems quite convenient, because to me, Woman Like Me was an undeniable smash hit. It wasn't remotely a problem for the LM5 era, regardless of what people's personal opinions are (and it's far from my fave LM single!)

 

Woman Like Me was a decent sized hit, but I personally feel it was the wrong choice to lead the album with. I think it put a lot of the casual fans off from buying the album, and ideally, would have been released in the summer instead of Only You. Monster In Me would have been the perfect choice to lead the album with I reckon.

It's not just a flop Christmas single though. Bounce Back was a flop, the album underperformed, Think About Us is their lowest charting single and Woman Like Me with everything thrown at it (X-Factor, Strictly, Brits Awards, big 'comeback' single etc etc) still isn't anywhere near being a million seller. The Cheat Codes collab before that also wasn't exactly a smash.

 

A song by Little Mix not even entering the top 200 is pretty shocking considering they had about eight singles in a row go Platinum from 2015 - 2017.

 

Well alright! Who else was right? Me? Just me and one other person selecting not debuting top 40 once it started flopping? Right!

 

Omfg speaking of, that atroocious bounce flop came on at the gym. It even has a Mel C I Want Candy style cheesy Mexican breakdown in the middle!! Not surprised that flopped. Even copying the Spices' fall from grace. Tsk tsk!

 

Also WLM flopped too. The end.

 

Yah, the Cowell band was even floppier than I thought, but I still can't see this doing that much better. 4 mill from people leaving bbtory on in the background tops.

I actually enjoyed Bounce Back! To release a track with that name & then not to follow it up seems like a fatal flaw though.

Woman Like Me was a decent sized hit, but I personally feel it was the wrong choice to lead the album with. I think it put a lot of the casual fans off from buying the album, and ideally, would have been released in the summer instead of Only You. Monster In Me would have been the perfect choice to lead the album with I reckon.

But the point at hand is that Woman Like Me is being seen as an underperformance, when it's far from one...!

Vertical video.

 

 

 

This really has been shafted by its omission from the main Christmas Playlists but it still probably should of done better even without them. Hopefully next year it could be added to either "Christmas Hits" or "Christmas is Coming". I did notice it got added to the Christmas Party playlist the other day.