The USA is the only superpower in the world. It's not just their economy, their soft power, their military capabilities, Silicon Valley, New York's financial centre. No country or some useless EU federal project can touch the USA.

 

China is the only superpower in the world. It's not just their economy, their soft power - which it has expanded greatly because of the pandemic, in contrast to your Trump-addled statement that people will blame them, its aid to poorer countries is probably going to help its image internationally while America's image will be that of an insane president denying the virus risks, their military capabilities, Huawei/Tencent/Alipay et al, Shanghai and Beijing's financial centre.

 

i.e. I have no idea how you could say America is a superpower by any criteria that doesn't also include China in the present day.

 

The EU is a bit more debatable, but their economy that is comparable to those two, that it has 26 advanced and developed nations working together, has many nations that exert a lot of soft power on their own joined together in a common cause, is a hub of economic and advanced industrial activity even without the UK... etc.

 

There's literally no basis for you saying that America must be a superpower alone, so you must include China. But then the current international system clearly isn't just USA and China going at each other like USA/USSR, the EU and Russia and to a limited extent Brazil and India too also have their own independent foreign policy goals that affect large parts of the world.

Is that a yes or a no? If no, how do you suppose it will be VERY loyal?

 

Ukraine want to join NATO, the UK will make sure this happens.

Ukraine want to join NATO, the UK will make sure this happens.

 

How do you suppose the UK affects this international change, all but confirming a war with Russia? The EU and USA might have some ... comments.

No thanks, the EU took an age to decide whether to sanction Belarus's Lukashenko, whereas the UK and Canada were in agreement immediately and went a lot further and quicker in hurting Belarus's cronies than the EU project did.

 

Right, the difference was 2 weeks, give or take. If Lukashenko doesn't step down, those will be in place for a long time and geopolitical realities means that Belarus cares a lot more about EU sanctions than two countries who have limited trade with it anyway.

What regulations do you support Britain having to prevent overfishing and depletion of North Sea stocks?

*gets ignored* :(

 

Who needs to answer perfectly reasonable questions when you can just go on about how EU is 'dying' and defend UK's decision to trade with a Miss World SUPERPOWER Ukraine.

 

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China is the only superpower in the world. It's not just their economy, their soft power - which it has expanded greatly because of the pandemic, in contrast to your Trump-addled statement that people will blame them, its aid to poorer countries is probably going to help its image internationally while America's image will be that of an insane president denying the virus risks, their military capabilities, Huawei/Tencent/Alipay et al, Shanghai and Beijing's financial centre.

 

i.e. I have no idea how you could say America is a superpower by any criteria that doesn't also include China in the present day.

 

The EU is a bit more debatable, but their economy that is comparable to those two, that it has 26 advanced and developed nations working together, has many nations that exert a lot of soft power on their own joined together in a common cause, is a hub of economic and advanced industrial activity even without the UK... etc.

 

There's literally no basis for you saying that America must be a superpower alone, so you must include China. But then the current international system clearly isn't just USA and China going at each other like USA/USSR, the EU and Russia and to a limited extent Brazil and India too also have their own independent foreign policy goals that affect large parts of the world.

 

I disagree, China had Huawei but now the world is boycotting Huawei, Australia, Canada, South East Asian countries, they are all diverting more and more of their trade away from China, the world doesn't trust China anymore.

 

Also Shanghai/Beijing's financial centre is nowhere near as influential and powerful as NYC or London.

Edited October 16, 20204 yr by PeaceMob

Because it's fake news. It comes from an FT article which used a clickbait headline whereas if you read the details which is behind a paywall then you will discover the headline is misleading.

 

Please explain how it’s misleading — excluding direct quotes from Liz Truss and the government.

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Back to fisheries, Japan are now interested in buying much more of UK's fisheries after the UK leaves the EU project completely at the end of this year.

 

Japan are particular interested in British salmon, mackerel, herring, sardines, crabs and lobsters.

 

The EU doesn't realise there is a whole world out there, the EU can keep protecting their shrinking EU single market all they want.

I disagree, China had Huawei but now the world is boycotting Huawei, Australia, Canada, South East Asian countries, they are all diverting more and more of their trade away from China, the world doesn't trust China anymore.

 

Also Shanghai/Beijing's financial centre is nowhere near as influential and powerful as NYC or London.

 

Which is why Huawei's revenue grew by over 13% in the first half of 2020 and they increased their profit margin?

 

China have 4/10 of the top 10 financial hubs in the world (Beijing, Hong Kong, Shanghai & Shenzhen).

 

It's rather laughable you're trying to dispute China's power. Whilst the likes of the US have been taking a more protectionist approach, China has continued to increase its influence and soft power throughout the rest of the world over the last 4 years.

 

Back to fisheries, Japan are now interested in buying much more of UK's fisheries after the UK leaves the EU project completely at the end of this year.

 

Japan are particular interested in British salmon, mackerel, herring, sardines, crabs and lobsters.

 

The EU doesn't realise there is a whole world out there, the EU can keep protecting their shrinking EU single market all they want.

 

So complaints over the EU taking our fish/fishieries and fishing quotas - only to allow states outside to EU to then own them instead? :lol: :lol: :lol:

British fishermen and women, and coastal towns have been ruined by the vile Common Fisheries Policy from the EU, how dare you take the side of the EU on this.

How? That introduced a system of quotas (essential to avoid over-fishing). The Thatcher government insisted that it should be possible for fishers to buy and sell their quotas, The most enthusiastic sellers were the British. They haven't stopped moaning since.

An excellent report on the arguement over fisheries and the final deal

 

https://t.co/kzrEClAxhz

 

 

Greenpeace are on the Brexiteers side on this. The EU are raping UK fishing waters, they already destroyed their own waters and were taking advantage of the UK's instead. Thank God for Brexit.

 

 

British fishermen and women, and coastal towns have been ruined by the vile Common Fisheries Policy from the EU, how dare you take the side of the EU on this.

 

 

 

 

Either the EU is destroying the stock in UK waters or it’s strangling the industry by imposing quotas. It cannot be both at the same time. Make up your mind and get back to us pls.

 

 

(And while the CFP is far from perfect it is the UK tory gov who refuse to turn up to meetings and don’t fight for fishing rights. They refuse Scotland a seat at the table to fight for its fishing industry as well. Fishing has never mattered to the Tories. It’s a convenient boogeyman to get their no deal. The CFP or a CFP of some reformed kind is required to ensure sustainable stocks and the continued livelihood of fishing communities. Without quotas and rampant overfishing they’d all be out of jobs when the stocks were depleted.)

Over 190,000 different businesses have written to the Government to warn of the dangers of not coming to a Deal with the EU. This will absolutely cripple us.

 

If anyone thinks leaving on WTO is the right outcome then you're deluded.

The government are still misleading people by talking about getting the same deal as Australia. Australia does not have a free-trade deal with the EU which means that there are tariffs (some of them hefty) and quotas. It would be just as accurate to say we are getting the same deal as Somalia or Afghanistan.

As i saw this morning, you can’t use Afghanistan as an example because even they will have better access to the EU than we would!!

 

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Brits like Australia. It's a country that's English-speaking, white-majority, Commonwealth etc, all the right sort of optics to put a good image in people's minds (ugh). Sounds a lot better than 'disastrous failure at negotiations to secure a deal' even though it's the exact same thing.

And the media is complicit as always by not calling it out and correcting the gov when it says “Australian style deal” with “so you mean no deal at all. As Australia has no tariff free access to the EU and does a substantially smaller percentage of its trade with the EU than we do.”

And the media is complicit as always by not calling it out and correcting the gov when it says “Australian style deal” with “so you mean no deal at all. As Australia has no tariff free access to the EU and does a substantially smaller percentage of its trade with the EU than we do.”

 

The BBC are the WORST at this. I remember them parroting the 'Brexit Dividend' line from Theresa May in 2018.

The BBC are the WORST at this. I remember them parroting the 'Brexit Dividend' line from Theresa May in 2018.

There was a time when it could be assumed that a statement from a government minister or department was at least broadly true and certainly not a blatant lie. That meant the the BBC and other broadcasters could justify their practice of quoting them without question or much of a challenge. That isn't true any more but the BBC are still acting as if it is. It doesn't help that they know that any challenge will be held up as an example of "BBC bias" rather than an example of journalists doing their job.

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You know it's bad when even North Korea are trolling us.