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What is the actual difference between Russia and Ukraine culturally etc?

kinda difficult to tell tbh

you know, the Ukrainian people are sort of gradiented (is it possible to say?) from West to East, Western ones being close to Poland state of mind, while Eastern people sometimes doesn't even know Ukrainian, speaking Russian and being close to Russian people in mind

as far as I can say, according to my own observations, these two nations are/were quite close

feel free to ask about any potentially different/similar things in our culture, I'll try to answer from my point of view

 

Kaliningrad, hold on guys. Geolocation of the region really doesn't work well nowadays in terms of safety. Wish you the best.

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I'd say he wouldn't dare unless one of them actually sends troops, but then I didn't expect it to go this far so who the hell knows :/

 

What a truly dark day, this should not be happening in the 21st Century.

 

Why wouldn’t he? The iron curtain included countries right up to Germany!

 

Hungary would also be one neutral or friendly nation as well as the former Yugoslavia!

Hungary would also be one neutral or friendly nation as well as the former Yugoslavia!

 

Does Orban get on well with Putin I wonder? They do have a few things in common!

Does Orban get on well with Putin I wonder? They do have a few things in common!

 

Yeh they are allies!

 

2 so called hard men with suspect records of human rights and freedom of the press.

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Why wouldn’t he? The iron curtain included countries right up to Germany!

 

Hungary would also be one neutral or friendly nation as well as the former Yugoslavia!

It ran through the middle of Germany!!!

 

 

Berlin still wears the scars from the last time the Russians visited

Orban lists after Putins power and control but his population is extremely pro-EU and his pockets are lined by EU funds so he will fall in line. He will grumble but he will fall in line
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I've never been more ashamed of being Russian than I was today.
I've been spending today largely in shock about all of this, I find it difficult to believe it's actually happening in this day and age
solidarity to ordinary ukrainians held hostage in all of this and to the ordinary russians in the streets right now risking it all to speak out. won't pretend to be an expert on any of this and that's all I can really say
I've never been more ashamed of being Russian than I was today.

 

The Russian people didn't get together and invade, it was a former KGB agent with a penchant for murder and an inflated sense of his own importance cos he's been in power too long and longs for the old days when he could Lord it over everyone else right up to the border with West Germany. The sad thing is we are all going to be much worse off, but Putin won't go until he's made to go. A declining standard of living is always a good incentive for change. Unfortunately one of the biggest boosters of popularity for politicians is a good old fashioned war, so I expect it'll be down to the other powerful people around him to provide a coup if it all goes tits up from a Russian point of view.

It ran through the middle of Germany!!!

Berlin still wears the scars from the last time the Russians visited

 

Indeed!

It was heart breaking when this came out in 2016 after the Crimean annexation and the Donbas war, now in 2022 it's devastating. Now will people listen to Ukraine and take them seriously. Because I'm pretty sure Putin won't stop at Ukraine.

 

 

Слава Україні!

 

 

Putin has clearly lost it. The moment he declared to the world on television that Ukraine wasn't a real country, I knew 100% that Russia was going to invade. So now Europe has a madman with nuclear weapons and they're still buying his gas. Europe has a big decision to make, either make the tough sacrifices now or they're risking World War 3.
the moment nato get involved the moment russia shit themselves let’s get it done
the moment nato get involved the moment russia shit themselves let’s get it done

 

They have nukes though which is why they wont!

the moment nato get involved the moment russia shit themselves let’s get it done

 

If Russia attacks the Baltic countries or Poland which I think is likely, then yes NATO would be involved. Like I said, Putin has lost his mind and no talking to him will stop him.

NATO won't get involved. I'd say unfortunately but Steve is right there, it risks too much. The only reason NATO still exists is as a defensive alliance against Russia, they don't initiate military operations and if they planned to defend Ukraine they'd have been stationed in there.

 

It really sucks but there's nothing we can do aside from watch and hope that Russia gets choked economically (and culturally, fck those EBU cowards) and diplomatically shut out of all aside from their cronies.

NATO won't get involved. I'd say unfortunately but Steve is right there, it risks too much. The only reason NATO still exists is as a defensive alliance against Russia, they don't initiate military operations and if they planned to defend Ukraine they'd have been stationed in there.

 

It really sucks but there's nothing we can do aside from watch and hope that Russia gets choked economically (and culturally, fck those EBU cowards) and diplomatically shut out of all aside from their cronies.

If Putin attacks a NATO state, they will be obliged to get involved under the NATO treaty.

If Putin attacks a NATO state, they will be obliged to get involved under the NATO treaty.

 

Naturally, I mean in the current situation.

 

I neglected to say that because I think that Russia also understands that attacking a NATO member would be suicide.

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