So after being let go of my part time events job due to insufficient work, My full time work seem to be getting ready to close their offices too with only a selected amount based on how long they’ve been there getting to work for home. I’m actually starting to shit myself because I’ve got a lot of bills to be paid and have next to no faith in this government to help.

If the worst happens, be sure to talk to your bank and the people whose bills you need to pay.

My school asked all the staff to let them know about any health conditions (those listed by the NHS as being a risk) today and those who replied have been advised not to come into work until further notice - me included as I have asthma. School's open for years 7, 10 and 11 due to a lack of staff available as a result (plus some already self-isolating).

Its nothing to do with politics, that was just a similar example. Reckless and thoughtless people did that, and reckless and thoughtless people will ignore all advice in this case too. The more you tell them no, the more they will dig in their heels and resist. So what can be done? Well as we've seen with Brexit as a prior example, not much. Certain people's minds are made up that they know best.

 

What can be done is enforcing stricter policies as everyone in this thread, except apparently you, is begging the government to do lol ~

 

I don't think it's a healthy attitude to be comparing people ignoring objective medical advice to people that disagree with you on politics but hey xx

What can be done is enforcing stricter policies as everyone in this thread, except apparently you, is begging the government to do lol ~

 

I am quite sure Jupiter did express his support for stricter policies on here before.

My school asked all the staff to let them know about any health conditions (those listed by the NHS as being a risk) today and those who replied have been advised not to come into work until further notice - me included as I have asthma. School's open for years 7, 10 and 11 due to a lack of staff available as a result (plus some already self-isolating).

 

Do people of any age with asthma have to stay home?

If you have asthma then I think you're in the at risk category.

Guess 2020 is another year where my posts are going to get misread then :')

 

With respect Bré, I was making a valid comparison based on a shared set of values observed very visibly by everyone in the country over the last 36 months. The category 'people-who-supported-Brexit' was (I thought) the most obvious and accessible example of certain people within the country trusting their own personal feelings over any kind of expert advice, even when the expert advice ran directly contrary to what their pre-existing beliefs were.

 

That was just one example group. I could have said anti-vaxxers or abstention-only sexual educators.

 

What I was emphatically not doing was saying that the actual group of people who voted for Brexit ran the risk of being more susceptible to coronavirus and because they supported that we should leave them to it. If that was your conclusion, you've misread me.

Edited March 17, 20205 yr by J00ps

Do people of any age with asthma have to stay home?

This was the list:

 

• aged 70 or older (regardless of medical conditions)

• under 70 with an underlying health condition listed below (ie anyone instructed to get a flu jab as an adult each year on medical grounds):

• chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
• chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
• chronic kidney disease
• chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
• chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson’s disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
• diabetes
• problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
• a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
• being seriously overweight (a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or above)
• those who are pregnant

So I fall into under 70 with asthma and have been told to stay home for the forseeable future...!

My BMI is above 40 so maybe I can work from home from Monday.

 

I expect the school to be closed by then though.

Guess 2020 is another year where my posts are going to get misread then :')

 

With respect Bré, I was making a valid comparison based on a shared set of values observed very visibly by everyone in the country over the last 36 months. The category 'people-who-supported-Brexit' was (I thought) the most obvious and accessible example of certain people within the country trusting their own personal feelings over any kind of expert advice, even when the expert advice ran directly contrary to what their pre-existing beliefs were.

 

That was just one example group. I could have said anti-vaxxers or abstention-only sexual educators.

 

What I was emphatically not doing was saying that the actual group of people who voted for Brexit ran the risk of being more susceptible to coronavirus and because they supported that we should leave them to it. If that was your conclusion, you've misread me.

 

I think we'll have to agree to disagree about that being a valid comparison, I disagree with comparing political disagreement to denying science (I get what you were going for and I'll accept you're not literally saying you want Brexit voters to suffer from the virus, I just don't think this is something that should be brought into the conversation at all). But whatever, that's not really the main point anyway, as you said it has nothing to do with politics so let me rephrase my original reply to you:

 

I really hope you don't legitimately think this. If anyone is allowed to 'be stupid' it hurts everyone because it spreads the disease further, this post reads like 'I'm ok with the virus spreading if it means that people I disagree with politically stupid people suffer'. :unsure:

 

Am I still misunderstanding your point? I don't know how else to possibly read that post, you literally said 'let people be stupid'. Sure there are probably people who are so stubborn that they'll do everything they can to defy anything the government does to try and stop the spread but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't even try which is what your post really looks like it's implying.

a learning disability or cerebral palsy

 

I didn't know these conditions raised the risk too. But just looked it up - cerebral palsy can apparently affect the immune system in some cases.

 

That's why it was reported that special schools (hate that term though) closed first in Northern Ireland.

Edited March 17, 20205 yr by The S***e

This was the list:

 

• aged 70 or older (regardless of medical conditions)

• under 70 with an underlying health condition listed below (ie anyone instructed to get a flu jab as an adult each year on medical grounds):

• chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
• chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
• chronic kidney disease
• chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
• chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson’s disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
• diabetes
• problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
• a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
• being seriously overweight (a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or above)
• those who are pregnant

So I fall into under 70 with asthma and have been told to stay home for the forseeable future...!

 

Ok thanks for posting, I'm going to bring this up in work tomorrow and see what they say.

 

Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

Ok re Bré, with the rephrase - point was just exasperation at people's stubbornness, not literally to completely stop trying. I do believe though that for some people the only thing to get through to them will be tangible consequences. That's just being realistic based on the pattern & being in denial over that imo is unhelpful. That could just be my work talking /shrug

Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

That’s still devastating...

Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

i'd rather get it and help with research over the effects and subsequent cure and stuff than be scared to go outside for the rest of the year (i am not but yeah)

I'm not personally scared of getting it myself as I'm not in an at-risk group but I would be worried about passing it onto my parents if I did get it (although realistically the only way I'd get it would probably be if someone else in my family gets it first anyway, I don't really ever come into contact with any other people at the moment lol).

That’s still devastating...

 

Absolutely!

Actually anyone else not really scared of gettin this now? They are talking about a low figure of 20,000 deaths now.

I'm currently experiencing a mild form of it,but having your lungs "attacked" by a virus is no fun.

 

I also don't thino a 20k deathrate is quite high, especially for a country that is supposed to have good healthcare since y'all are rich etc

I'm not worried about getting it personally. I almost feel like it would be getting it over with. I'm young and healthy enough that I'll probably be ok.

 

What worries me is passing it on to others who are vulnerable or who will be in contact with those who are at risk.

 

It's all about breaking the chain of transmission