The first two threads of this were fine, I'm not sure why this has suddenly turned into something reminiscent of the Politics forum (and basically the reason I stopped posting there). I do think if this is going to turn into what the first three pages have become then it really should go into Politics mainly for the sanity of people who use the Lounge.

I think it should stay here. People don't have to come into the thread after all .

 

 

I agree Michael. Bit like a TV show. You don't have to watch it. No-one's forcing anyone to open the thread regularly.

 

If you'd all like me to stop posting in this thread then I will do. :) Just read the first 3 pages and can't see anything I've posted that is wrong.

Edited April 3, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

I agree Michael. Bit like a TV show. You don't have to watch it. No-one's forcing anyone to open the thread regularly.

 

If you'd all like me to stop posting in this thread then I will do. :) Just read the first 3 pages and can't see anything I've posted that is wrong.

You don't need to stop posting, you just need to get some perspective and show some compassion.

 

Both of you seem to be forgetting that a this is a major, developing, worldwide situation that is impacting everybody - so when people see that there's a lot of discussion going on in the thread, they're more likely to click and read (particularly being in the Lounge too).

 

Some of what's being posted in here though is becoming a bit too heavy, unnecessary and in some cases pretty insensitive. We're now at a point where members in the community are sadly losing people close to them or that they know. We should be able to give people the escape they need, and not a constant reminder of the scary place we're in right now.

Must be awful not to know whether you'll have a job after all this or not.

 

No I do have a job to go back to As the company wants me back but because it’s through agency it makes it complicated and it makes the furlough a very complicated one

You don't need to stop posting, you just need to get some perspective and show some compassion.

 

Both of you seem to be forgetting that a this is a major, developing, worldwide situation that is impacting everybody - so when people see that there's a lot of discussion going on in the thread, they're more likely to click and read (particularly being in the Lounge too).

 

Some of what's being posted in here though is becoming a bit too heavy, unnecessary and in some cases pretty insensitive. We're now at a point where members in the community are sadly losing people close to them or that they know. We should be able to give people the escape they need, and not a constant reminder of the scary place we're in right now.

 

 

I have compassion and resent the insinuation that I haven't. :(

 

With respect you don't come in to a Coronavirus thread for escapism as it's a very serious subject. Maybe shouldn't be in the Lounge then as that seems to be for more light-hearted threads. I was a bit surprised the first one started in here rather than N&P.

Edited April 3, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Moved now then eh...

 

I don't mind where it is. If I'm honest I think you guys are being a little precious saying that a global pandemic managed (however well or poorly) by govermments shouldn't have any elements of political discussion within it. These are things that affect everyone and shouldn't, in my view, be a reality that we hide ourselves away from. That pretends that nothing could have been done at any stage which is simply inaccurate.

On that point I don't get why people hide away from news & politics as if they were dirty words. God forbid one goes onto a forum to share their opinions of things going on in the world. Let's just all pretend to have no opinion on anything instead out of politeness in case we (gasp) *disagree* on something & have to acknowledge that.

Moved now then eh...

 

I don't mind where it is. If I'm honest I think you guys are being a little precious saying that a global pandemic managed (however well or poorly) by govermments shouldn't have any elements of political discussion within it. These are things that affect everyone and shouldn't, in my view, be a reality that we hide ourselves away from. That pretends that nothing could have been done at any stage which is simply inaccurate.

 

political discussion belongs in the politics forum. We’ve had to move brexit discussions to here for similar reasons! The lounge is meant to be a place of escapism, not hardcore political discussion and if members are feeling uncomfortable coming in here then it can be moved

 

we all know there’s a particular reason this keeps going off course anyway and it keeps being fed 🙃

Moved now then eh...

 

I don't mind where it is. If I'm honest I think you guys are being a little precious saying that a global pandemic managed (however well or poorly) by govermments shouldn't have any elements of political discussion within it. These are things that affect everyone and shouldn't, in my view, be a reality that we hide ourselves away from. That pretends that nothing could have been done at any stage which is simply inaccurate.

 

I very much agree. It doesn’t matter to me where the thread is but wherever it is, this isn’t the kind of topic that should shy away from political discussion.

also for clarity I have a politics degree so please don’t accuse me of shielding myself from news and politics, I read the news around this and discuss it with people in real life. I come to this forum when I want to discuss politics, I go to the lounge when I want a break from my degree and studies!

I very much agree. It doesn’t matter to me where the thread is but wherever it is, this isn’t the kind of topic that should shy away from political discussion.

 

now it’s here it can be more unfiltered political discussion

Not challenging you lotti btw

also for clarity I have a politics degree so please don’t accuse me of shielding myself from news and politics, I read the news around this and discuss it with people in real life. I come to this forum when I want to discuss politics, I go to the lounge when I want a break from my degree and studies!

 

Wasnt including you in what i said. I meant rather, if politics is involved in the discussion, it should be. If that necessitates moving it, well and good. Xo

Just to clarify: not trying to discourage anybody from political discussion; it's naturally going to come up in some threads covering issues like this. Up until now in the previous thread it hadn't been an issue at all, but I'm sure we all know why it has become one in the past few days.

Wasnt including you in what i said. I meant rather, if politics is involved in the discussion, it should be. If that necessitates moving it, well and good. Xo

 

thank you!

 

Neither me and (I think but I don’t want to speak for them!) or the rest of the lounge mods want to stop all political discussion, we all recognise the importance surrounding the politics of this! we just want it to be in the best possible place. now I’ll try get my intellectual hat on when I come back in here :lol:

Nw mods, you wouldn't be able to discourage me :P

 

Point taken. Tbf i did slightly wonder why it was where it was in the first place xo

On that point I don't get why people hide away from news & politics as if they were dirty words. God forbid one goes onto a forum to share their opinions of things going on in the world. Let's just all pretend to have no opinion on anything instead out of politeness in case we (gasp) *disagree* on something & have to acknowledge that.

 

Been quite a while since there was ANY discussion in News & Politics with this taking over everything so I'm actually a little relieved, I am weird but in some ways reading useless online political arguments is comforting, and I don't have to worry that we're taking it too far towards the politics end.

 

From The Sun:

 

Emma Tarry, 26, is a mum-of-two from Lancaster and her stockpile includes 800 nappies, 14 boxes of cereal and 68 tins of dog food.

 

She is terrified of her family being stuck indoors without food so bought a BB gun in case anyone tries to nick her hoard.

 

“I researched how to legally buy a BB gun or air rifle and bought one from a local gun shop.

 

I’ve previously had shooting lessons on a local gun range, it’s legal and stored correctly and it gives me peace of mind.

 

Three weeks ago I woke up in the middle of the night and heard someone trying to break into my garden shed.

 

I stayed upstairs and pointed the BB gun out the window and told the man to ‘eat the dirt’.

 

I didn’t go downstairs - I was shaking and the dogs were barking.

 

I’m a single mum on a limited income and my kids come first.

 

When the coronavirus hit I made a list of supplies we needed to stay indoors and on lockdown for three months - my decision to prepare and stay indoors was correct and no one can tell me otherwise.

 

I used my savings to buy it all and had two trolleys at one supermarket - people were pointing and criticising.

 

I ignored them - if it’s raining you don’t go outdoors without an umbrella, so you don’t go into lockdown without enough food for your family.

 

I bought a double door freezer and stocked it with ten kilos of chicken, ten boxes of fish fingers, oven chips, frozen fruit and veg and five chocolate gateaux cheese cakes.

 

I have 800 nappies, 20 packets of kids wipes, seven tubs of vitamins, six bottles of calpol and paracetamol to last three months for myself.

 

I have 14 boxes of cereal, 12 litres of UHT milk and 15 Easter eggs.

 

And I got a pack of 200 gloves and five N95 masks for myself and the kids

 

I didn’t forget the pets either, with six tubs of fish food and 68 tins for my two dogs.

 

I steam clean everything before it comes inside and wash all the post, if it comes in plastic bags, with disinfectant."

 

 

No mention of loo rolls. :o

Edited April 3, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

I wonder how Emma votes.

Are you watching the live news conference? The Deputy Chief MO has just said we're nowhere near running out of ventilators and there's one for everyone who needs one and many more on the way next week.

It's odd that the message from government is that there are enough ventilators. My family has today been informed that if anyone in the nursing home my Nan currently resides in contracts COVID-19 they won't be admitted to hospital because they won't be enough ventilators and they won't be a priority case. If there are plenty of ventilators to go around there's surely no need for measures like this to be brought in?