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The official radio edit of IYWHSF is much better than the album version.

 

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The official radio edit of IYWHSF is much better than the album version.

 

 

Is Emma asking if I’m having fun? Not sure about it 😈😛

Is Emma asking if I’m having fun? Not sure about it 😈😛

She only asks once in the radio edit haha

She only asks once in the radio edit haha

 

That’s why! So disappointing. I need Emma to ask 1 billion times as in the album version 😂

The official radio edit of IYWHSF is much better than the album version.

 

 

A clip from this would be good to push the vinyl on social media

A clip from this would be good to push the vinyl on social media

It would be awesome if they acknowledged some of the album tracks from Forever.

It would be awesome if they acknowledged some of the album tracks from Forever.

 

IYWHSF seems universally loved they would be wise to use it somehow.

IYWHSF seems universally loved they would be wise to use it somehow.

 

Only if it’s the Emma Edit

 

Are you having fun!?????

I still desperately want a better remix of IYWHSF. I'm gagging for a bit more tempo on this track. It's just a little lethargic for me. Needs to be easier to dance to. I can imagine it could really go off.

 

It also needs to be shorter too, of course.

Is the version of IYWHSF that's in the video the same as the radio edit that was sent to stations? Cause. If it is. That effort's a major fail.

 

At a point, it just lurches to the end of the song like the album skipped. Beyond sloppy. Unacceptable. It wouldn't have been especially hard to put together a seamless shorter edit. I don't work in music, and I could do it in probably three minutes. You'd think people in charge of a multi-million dollar project could do the same? And to think this video was sent to MTV.

 

The video irks me too, really. Between Wembley, the Christmas shows, the tour doc, and behind-the-scenes of Holler/LLLTW...there was MORE than enough video of the four-piece Spices to cover a four minute clip. But...instead...half the thing is some weird recutting of history where we pretend extremely famous moments didn't have Geri? It's completely distracting.

 

Anyway. On the upside...20 years later, the actual song's still fab.

One more thought on Forever. I know the general consensus about the album has been..."Holler was the only potential #1 out of the new material." But I've never really thought that.

 

Holler sold below their previous singles...but it also did so with relatively little support from the group...and it arrived in an especially busy era of Spice material.

 

If the Spices had truly decided to hit the brakes on their solo stuff by fall 2000 (no Mel B album, no Mel C tour) and truly throw their support behind Forever, I think they could have racked up a few more #1s in at least Tell Me Why and If You Wanna Have Some Fun.

 

Victoria managed huge sales with Out of Your Mind...a song that's far less commercial than nearly anything on Forever. But. It had the right video...and a strong push from Victoria.

 

Plus, I figure Tell Me Why would have had the added built-in controversy of people speculating..."is it...or is it not about Geri?"

Out Of Your mind was totally commercial at that time.

 

I’m not sure any further release from Holler would have topped the charts.

 

However Tell Me Why would have been my next single choice.

Tell me why was the obvious next single to me in Jan. It is on the digital version of the GH, it has remixes.
Is the version of IYWHSF that's in the video the same as the radio edit that was sent to stations? Cause. If it is. That effort's a major fail.

 

At a point, it just lurches to the end of the song like the album skipped. Beyond sloppy. Unacceptable. It wouldn't have been especially hard to put together a seamless shorter edit. I don't work in music, and I could do it in probably three minutes. You'd think people in charge of a multi-million dollar project could do the same? And to think this video was sent to MTV.

 

The video irks me too, really. Between Wembley, the Christmas shows, the tour doc, and behind-the-scenes of Holler/LLLTW...there was MORE than enough video of the four-piece Spices to cover a four minute clip. But...instead...half the thing is some weird recutting of history where we pretend extremely famous moments didn't have Geri? It's completely distracting.

 

Anyway. On the upside...20 years later, the actual song's still fab.

 

Agree on all fronts! That edit and video were so bad, you could tell whoever did it and/or whoever commissioned it, did not give two shits about it... I always thought that video was only a web site video, not an official one?!

 

They had TONS of footage from the Forever era that they could have used more on the video. It looked like a fan with no editing skills made it on iMovie...

One more thought on Forever. I know the general consensus about the album has been..."Holler was the only potential #1 out of the new material." But I've never really thought that.

 

Holler sold below their previous singles...but it also did so with relatively little support from the group...and it arrived in an especially busy era of Spice material.

 

If the Spices had truly decided to hit the brakes on their solo stuff by fall 2000 (no Mel B album, no Mel C tour) and truly throw their support behind Forever, I think they could have racked up a few more #1s in at least Tell Me Why and If You Wanna Have Some Fun.

 

Victoria managed huge sales with Out of Your Mind...a song that's far less commercial than nearly anything on Forever. But. It had the right video...and a strong push from Victoria.

 

Plus, I figure Tell Me Why would have had the added built-in controversy of people speculating..."is it...or is it not about Geri?"

 

Also agree. If they had committed, the album would have done MUCH better. For a group that was constantly grifting and promoting, by the time they got to Forever (and still today), they never properly promote the group stuff. It's WILD TO ME!!

 

Like, stupid that both Mels were releasing and touring around at the time. Same with 2007 reunion - they kept pushing their solo shite, including Mel C releasing till the last minute to massive flop effect.

 

Same with 2019! They didnt do ANY interviews apart 2 days of promo for the announcement. NOTHING AT ALL near the tour. Why? Emma was pushing her bad album. Mel C was writing solo music at the same time and prepping for the Pride events.

 

Like, I am thankful, but they always treat the group stuff with as little care as possible, but always run solo projects over the group stuff, to be point of conflicting and damaging the group. It's boring...

 

Had the properly promote it, Holler and LLLTW could have done so much better in the UK and outside of the UK... instead, they barely did anything outside of the UK and even that was only for a week. Then they just abandoned the project. No wonder everyone else also moved on...

 

Tell Me Why and If You Wanna Have Some Fun could have easily gone #1 or even Top3 with proper promos. They have themselves to blame only..

I always thought that video was only a web site video, not an official one?!

 

I guess I don't have the full story on the IYWHSF video. I don't live in the UK. But I used to belong to some UK pop forums back then...and I remember people claiming the video got a little play on TV. I assumed Virgin commissioned it for a little extra album push. I'm fairly sure it showed up not long after the album release.

 

I actually don't remember whether it was on their old official site or not. I remember a few of that site's iterations...and there were certainly times it offered better content than other times. I remember watching the entire Earls Court concert song-by-song on their site in late 1999. By the time Forever rolled around, the redesign was pretty bare bones as I remember it. I just remember you being able to look at a few pictures from that era (all better than the actual album art)...and maybe the Holler and Let Leave Lead the Way videos?

The video was def played on UKTV.

 

Not for long and not in high rotation.

'If You Wanna Have Some Fun' could have certainly been a hit in the early months of 2002 in its radio edit form, a fun music video, promo. This could have easily been a top 3 hit easy. 'Tell Me Why' next as planned could have also done well another top 5 hit maybe & help the album sell a bit more. However don't see much potential in 'Weekend Love' as a single, it would have probably needed a radical single mix.

My choice to follow 'IUWHSF' & 'TMW' would have been the stunning 'Oxygen', as its easily one of the strongest tracks on the album with each girl gets a chance to really show off that they can sing.
This would have been a nice closer to the era.

Holler/Let Love Lead The Way
If U Wanna Have Some Fun
Tell Me Why
Oxygen

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Same with 2019! They didnt do ANY interviews apart 2 days of promo for the announcement. NOTHING AT ALL near the tour. Why? Emma was pushing her bad album. Mel C was writing solo music at the same time and prepping for the Pride events.

 

I agree with your previous points, especially around Forever as they basically gave up straight after the album release, but promo in 2019 was definitely not needed. The did some promo (Jonathan Ross for example) when tickets were announced, but why would you do more work and promo when you know you'll sell anyway. It's not like they needed tickets to be sold, they were already selling like crazy. Ofcourse, as a fan, I would have loved to see more promo but it was not needed at all.

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