What’s going on in Wales is bizarre. Totally arbitrary... closing the “non-essential” aisles will just force people to crowd together if anything? Seems like they’re just being cruel for the sake of it. What is the logic behind these choices, I am not seeing any justifications whatsoever. We need to stop accepting it at face value, they can’t put rules like that in force just because they feel like it

 

There is a justification for it though I don’t agree with it. It has come from pressure from businesses forced to close down during the two week lockdown so that people will come back to their businesses when they reopen rather than just sticking with supermarkets. As I said, I don’t agree with it and it’s likely it will be dropped this week anyway because of the response.

 

Anyway I don’t have the energy anymore to get upset about anything. Only my holidays are being affected now so life is pretty much normal at any other time. I am interested to see if numbers actually go down despite schools being open.

I know, but I do think the compliance of masks is pretty strong and do temperature checks have that much of a big effect? The only place I think they might actually be useful is in workplaces. Certainly the effect on the transmission rate must be very low. The problem is we're not going to do a complete shutdown anywhere. I could certainly see mini lockdowns to stall time, especially if we know the outcomes of the vaccine trials in the next month.

 

The situation in Belgium and France right now is grim and they are probably 3 weeks head of us, although perhaps we had a headstand on some of the measures e.g. rule of 6, which lots of countries seem to be adopting now.

Belgium has been dealing with rule of 10, 4 and 1 for weeks now, but that didnt help matters much

From BBC News.

 

A Covid test that can provide a result in 12 minutes will be made available at high street pharmacy Boots.

 

The nasal swab test, which will cost £120, will be available in selected stores in the UK to people who are not showing symptoms.

 

The company says the aim is to offer customers peace of mind.

 

Anyone in the UK who thinks they have symptoms should stay at home and contact the NHS to book a Covid test in the usual way.

 

The technology has been developed by LumiraDx, which has also struck a deal to provide supplies to the NHS in Scotland.

 

Trials suggest it is accurate enough to identify cases, although, like any Covid test, there are some false results meaning they are not 100% reliable.

 

 

The Lumira tests, due to lauch at 50 Boots stores in November, take minutes to give a result, analysing a nose swab sample on the spot, via a small, portable machine.

 

Anyone who tests positive should then isolate to avoid spreading the infection to others.

 

 

Edited October 26, 20204 yr by Crazy Chris

I wouldn't pay that but I bet lots will if it means they can safely see their families at Christmas.

From BBC News.

 

A Covid test that can provide a result in 12 minutes will be made available at high street pharmacy Boots.

 

The nasal swab test, which will cost £120, will be available in selected stores in the UK to people who are not showing symptoms.

 

The company says the aim is to offer customers peace of mind.

 

Anyone in the UK who thinks they have symptoms should stay at home and contact the NHS to book a Covid test in the usual way.

 

The technology has been developed by LumiraDx, which has also struck a deal to provide supplies to the NHS in Scotland.

 

Trials suggest it is accurate enough to identify cases, although, like any Covid test, there are some false results meaning they are not 100% reliable.

The Lumira tests, due to lauch at 50 Boots stores in November, take minutes to give a result, analysing a nose swab sample on the spot, via a small, portable machine.

 

Anyone who tests positive should then isolate to avoid spreading the infection to others.

At £120 a throw, I suspect the aim is really to make a big fat profit.

There is a justification for it though I don’t agree with it. It has come from pressure from businesses forced to close down during the two week lockdown so that people will come back to their businesses when they reopen rather than just sticking with supermarkets. As I said, I don’t agree with it and it’s likely it will be dropped this week anyway because of the response.

 

Anyway I don’t have the energy anymore to get upset about anything. Only my holidays are being affected now so life is pretty much normal at any other time. I am interested to see if numbers actually go down despite schools being open.

 

Yeah I’ve heard that but it just seems ridiculous... surely it forces people to just flock to Amazon instead? Absolutely ridiculous that you can buy alcohol but not a book.

 

Numbers aren’t going down though... it feels like enforcing masks has done absolutely nothing. The only thing that worked was a total lockdown, which the government are just too cheap to do again.

Yeah I’ve heard that but it just seems ridiculous... surely it forces people to just flock to Amazon instead? Absolutely ridiculous that you can buy alcohol but not a book.

 

Numbers aren’t going down though... it feels like enforcing masks has done absolutely nothing. The only thing that worked was a total lockdown, which the government are just too cheap to do again.

 

Didn’t people flock to online during the last lockdown anyway? I don’t remember everyone prioritising supermarkets for clothes and books back then. I bought many books online through independent book sellers who couldn’t open.

 

It’s tough but we can’t live in a full lockdown for the rest of our lives. It could potentially be that there won’t be a vaccine. I think frequent but short circuit breakers could be the way forward but who really knows?

Edited October 26, 20204 yr by T Boy

Didn’t people flock to online during the last lockdown anyway? I don’t remember everyone prioritising supermarkets for clothes and books back then. I bought many books online through independent book sellers who couldn’t open.

 

It’s tough but we can’t live in a full lockdown for the rest of our lives. It could potentially be that there won’t be a vaccine. I think frequent but short circuit breakers could be the way forward but who really knows?

 

Yep, very true. My opinion on it is unpopular so I won’t even bother to share it... really not a fan of the politicisation of this virus

Yeah I’ve heard that but it just seems ridiculous... surely it forces people to just flock to Amazon instead? Absolutely ridiculous that you can buy alcohol but not a book.

 

Numbers aren’t going down though... it feels like enforcing masks has done absolutely nothing. The only thing that worked was a total lockdown, which the government are just too cheap to do again.

 

I think the social distancing rules do have an effect though, you'd likely be seeing an increase of 20-30% of cases in the rules weren't enforced. We haven't got to the stage yet where things are out of control, but the situation in the likes of Czech Republic, Belgium and France is very worrying. I think this Tier system can work.. however my worry is that it's just too slow to make the changes. There quite a few places which could be in Tier 2 right now but are not,

 

I think it leads to the attitude "well it's not here, it's all up North etc. etc."

367 dead today, looks like in 2-3 weeks we might be hitting the rate of hospitalisations at the peak.

 

Pretty grim viewing, looks like the rest of the country not currently under Tier 2 are on borrowed time.. or the rest of the Tier 2 countries on borrowed time for Tier 3.

Yes today's figures are rather alarming. We'll be all in Tier 3 before too long at this rate.

Pretty startling if hospitalisation rates match what they did beforehand given the knowledge of the virus now, peoples behaviour and already current restrictions in place. Pretty much sums up that the restrictions are doing very little at all!

Pretty startling if hospitalisation rates match what they did beforehand given the knowledge of the virus now, peoples behaviour and already current restrictions in place. Pretty much sums up that the restrictions are doing very little at all!

 

The good news is we will probably see less deaths as we have better treatment and understanding now. But I don't know what starts happening when we reach our peak as probably those with a greater chance of survival will end up not being admitted. I think the restrictions are slowing the spread, but they're not bringing them down.

Northern Ireland now has more people hospitalised with Cornavirus than there were than in its original peak back in April, and the 13 deaths recorded yesterday is also close to April's peak. Then when you combine that the usual winter hospitalisations that are due over the next few months, I have a feeling that unfortunately our current circuit breaker might end up being extended.

Yes today's figures are rather alarming. We'll be all in Tier 3 before too long at this rate.

As R is above 1 everywhere, that seems inevitable.

At £120 a throw, I suspect the aim is really to make a big fat profit.

 

Many people won't be able to afford £120 just before Christmas. Am thinking pensioners, low paid with families. No discount or anything.

Northern Ireland now has more people hospitalised with Cornavirus than there were than in its original peak back in April, and the 13 deaths recorded yesterday is also close to April's peak. Then when you combine that the usual winter hospitalisations that are due over the next few months, I have a feeling that unfortunately our current circuit breaker might end up being extended.

 

And the bleak part is we are not even in winter yet. I don't know how Christmas happens at this rate, they must be fairly confident about this rapid testing being more readily available in December time otherwise I can't see how you can not at least marginalise the risk associated with Christmas.

Didn’t people flock to online during the last lockdown anyway? I don’t remember everyone prioritising supermarkets for clothes and books back then. I bought many books online through independent book sellers who couldn’t open.

 

 

The Post Office is taking on thousands of temporary delivery workers, particularly those who can drive, to cope with the extra volume in the run up to Christmas, with online shopping.

Ain't noone sticking to any restrictions for Xmas. January is gonna be a warzone...

Let's not forget that this all ways round has been a class war that the government deliberately instigated.

 

The toffs in government have actively chosen to let the nation's poor elderly be at high risk of contracting and thus dying of covid by insisting service line workers return to work, all kids attend school, and if granny and granda have to provide childcare, well that's a risk they'll have to take.