Uh, yes, pretty much the entirety of the north-west quarter of Exeter is either the university campus or heavily made up of student housing, so if everyone was staying home and local, not much student to local transmission. They have a smaller campus in the middle of the city but I can't imagine it's being used in these circumstances, so that chart actually doesn't surprise me.

 

But probably also the base cases were lower out there when the Exeter students went back.

Virtually 0 cases in some parts of Scotland, yet we may have to go into lockdown because of Westminster's refusal to compromise on Furlough? A farce.

Belgium claiming in 10 days time they are going to have to triage.. absolutely mad.

Belgium claiming in 10 days time they are going to have to triage.. absolutely mad.

What ia your source for this. Our biggest viral expert has said today that if we continue down this trajectory we will likely stay below max capacity.

What ia your source for this. Our biggest viral expert has said today that if we continue down this trajectory we will likely stay below max capacity.

 

https://amp.dw.com/en/belgiums-covid-19-hea...days/a-55451750?

 

And how many of those doctors have the coronavirus right now?

 

We have around 10% of doctors and nurses that are symptomatic, and they're at home, sick. At other hospitals in Liege, we have around 25% of doctors and nurses who are symptomatic. So we are lucky in my hospital compared to the other ones in the city. And for this reason, we are forced to use asymptomatic doctors and nurses in the COVID-19 wards.

 

[...]The numbers are going up, they will probably continue to go up when it comes to COVID-19 infections. When will this implode?

 

Mathematical models are saying that it will happen in 10 days. So, in 10 days, we will have only two choices available: Transfer patients to Germany and hope we won't do triage…. or we'll have to do triage. [That means] there will be only one bed remaining, and two patients. And the doctors will have to choose which one of the two patients will be able to be in the only bed we have. That's triage. Usually, it's done in terrorism, in war, in catastrophes like a nuclear explosion.

 

You've been working for many years, in your position. Now you're confronted with… this. How do you feel?

 

Sad. Sad because I've hoped now, for six months, that it would never happen. That people would have understood the risk. And that people would have changed their habits for one year. Just to avoid that. But it's a failure of the solidarity between people in Belgium — and a question of balance between solidarity and individual rights. Some people choose their own rights compared to solidarity. And the result is now here. I've seen people dying and regretting that they didn't wear the mask. I saw that. I saw families that had big parties with all the family members. And all the family members were infected. And I've got a family right now where 80% of the family is in the beds here. Right now, just after a birthday party. That's what I'm seeing now. But the danger now in Europe is everywhere. If people don't take hard measures soon, then you will live a nightmare like we are living right now.

 

DW (Deutsche Welle) is a legit source. Well trusted and respected.

 

 

I've seen suggestions in German media that we're already on stand-by to take in patients from BE and NL, and remain prepared to take in others. Germany took in people from across the EU in the spring and will do so again.

Why can Boris not answer a simple question from an MP? :angry: He asked why pubs can't offer takeaway drinks along with takeaway meals? He did ask something else too though. Boris ignored that point and I'd like it answering too. Maybe he can't as it's a ridiculous situation. How can it be more risky to queue outside, socially distanced, on the pavement, for a pint as well as the curry and rice? Saves a visit to the off-licence, so extra mixing with people. BORIS WE AWAIT YOUR ANSWER. A huge fan of yours here is disappointed in you. :( Maybe if it had been asked as a separate question then he'd have had to answer. Many landlords are angry and are asking their MP's to allow takeaway drinks when it's debated on Wed. At least give them some business as it's not worth opening just to cook food so most just won't bother. Plastic glasses, easy to do.

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There’s a petition to keep the sales departments of car dealerships open as well servicing as it is “low risk”. Not that it effects me being in the marketing department but I can tell you now it’s not low risk.

So here in Weeyals we are coming out of lockdown in a week with restrictions on meeting up. The trouble will be people on the English side of the border sneaking over to Wales out of their lockdown and I can’t think how it could be stopped.

 

And I cannot believe there are still Welsh tories claiming the firebreak was a mistake, even after England’s news.

I don't get these petitions to keep certain low risk things open. Yes, a lot of them are low risk but lots of individual low risks equals a much bigger risk where it continues to spread.

 

I felt the same way about crowds at sport too. No, it's not particularly a big risk to have a few thousand people spread out outside, but it'd put too much strain on public transport and places to eat/drink close by.

Maybe a Tory should have asked the Question Chris wanted an answer to

 

 

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Shameless c**t

DW (Deutsche Welle) is a legit source. Well trusted and respected.

I've seen suggestions in German media that we're already on stand-by to take in patients from BE and NL, and remain prepared to take in others. Germany took in people from across the EU in the spring and will do so again.

Germany has already taken in 21 patients from Belgium and I think somewhere around 8 or 9 from The Netherlands.

 

That article was from 4 days ago and thankfully a platteau seems to be surfacing now. This government f***ed up big time, I'd say it was somewhere along with the UKs response to the 1st wave. I mean even The Netherlands had measures before Belgium and they are one of the most lenient in the EU, Sweden aside

 

It is very bad around here. Brussels and Liege are at full capacity, but there seems to be lights ahead. The spread of patients, or lack of it, seems to be the bottleneck

Aaah good, happy to see the x-border healthcare working properly but shame it’s required

 

 

 

Yeah I’ve got to say things very much seem to have gone awry in Belgium this time around. What drove the second wave?

Virtually 0 cases in some parts of Scotland, yet we may have to go into lockdown because of Westminster's refusal to compromise on Furlough? A farce.

 

Did you see yesterday

 

162 deaths in the UK, of which...

6 were in Scotland.

 

But sure, the whole UK is just the same as each other. So much is being left out of what is reported to us by the mass media and government briefings in order to keep us in line.

 

Obviously covid is serious.

But who knew before this, for example, that 150 people die of cancer every day in the UK? Against that stat, similar covid deaths don't look quite so bleak, although of course neither are ideal.

Aaah good, happy to see the x-border healthcare working properly but shame it’s required

Yeah I’ve got to say things very much seem to have gone awry in Belgium this time around. What drove the second wave?

Chile I have no idea. This government was in office 2 days before they started showing how incompetent they are. It started going up when the kids went to school on september first, which was accelerated by loosening restrictions on groups (wtf). Then it started spreading a lil' but it got accelarated again right before uni's where coming back and new restrictions were put in place. It obviously accelerated when uni's came back on as age groups mixed and mixed and it spread to workplaces and homes.

 

Mind you, Belgians are a very warm group. They greet everyone with kisses and hugs and that really sparked a lot of cases.

 

In the beginning a good 30% of the infections came from holidaygoers, so from there it spread massively. So it was a perfect storm for Ms Rona

I missed this front cover on Sunday (from the Online Independent) but it brilliantly demonstrates how much inertia this government has when tackling the virus and how much more worse the impact on total deaths and the economy has been due to their slow reactions.

 

This lockdown is on Johnson.

 

Major incident declared by the NorthWest Ambulance Service:

 

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Boris has ‘confirmed’ (he still used weasel wording :’)) the furlough scheme will be extended Scotland if it has a lockdown later so we SHOULD be spared one for now? Nicola says she still hasn’t got confirmation from the treasury so who knows.

It still doesn’t excuse them refusing it for Wales.

Did you see yesterday

 

162 deaths in the UK, of which...

6 were in Scotland.

 

But sure, the whole UK is just the same as each other. So much is being left out of what is reported to us by the mass media and government briefings in order to keep us in line.

 

Obviously covid is serious.

But who knew before this, for example, that 150 people die of cancer every day in the UK? Against that stat, similar covid deaths don't look quite so bleak, although of course neither are ideal.

 

The issue isn't with deaths. It's sad people die, but the majority of people dying are old and vulnerable rather than the young and healthy. But there's a real problem of hospitals being overwhelmed as so many people do need assistance to help them recover. It's why when people day "But what about the deaths" - it isn't really about that it's about the healchare system.

 

There are loads of stuff which is classed as 'low risk' e.g. gyms but I suspect they just want people not do anything for 4 weeks, which I get. But they have to fix track and trace and come up with an idea for Christmas and students returning home for Christmas.

 

Let's hope this gives us time to get these mass testings up and running as clearly they are they key to education and healthcare getting back to some form of normality.