To be fair, Suedy, you seem a tad obsessed over Boris supposed lying. Everyone lies, even if only white lies. Can you honestly say you've never ever even told a white lie in your entire life. I know I have. I rang in sick to attend a job interview in 1978. not thinking the prospective new employer would ring for a reference that very afternoon. :o Strolled in next day "Christopher, in my office please..." :(

 

He doesn't know how to do anything else, he lies every time his lips move. It's like an instinctive, compulsive habit and you're a fool for believing the things he says.

 

You are truly beyond hope, I'm afraid. But I knew that a long time ago.

To be fair, Suedy, you seem a tad obsessed over Boris supposed lying. Everyone lies, even if only white lies. Can you honestly say you've never ever even told a white lie in your entire life. I know I have. I rang in sick to attend a job interview in 1978. not thinking the prospective new employer would ring for a reference that very afternoon. :o Strolled in next day "Christopher, in my office please..." :(

 

You almost sound like you’re trying to dismiss the seriousness of the situation. Remember this is a man who is prime minister of this country and has gone to an event which he knows full well it shouldn’t have taken place. Trying to justify it as a work event is insulting when there was alcohol involved and his partner attended. It’s a massive deceit on behalf of the public who at the time were ordered to stay at home and adhere to lockdown rules. He should have known better given his role and all he has done is try to cover it up and now he has to face the consequences of his lies and incompetence.

Edited January 12, 20223 yr by slowdown73

Boris thought the garden party was a work event. How many parties are they having that they can't distinguish if its a work event or not?

 

And why are they drinking at work so much? Outlawed in even some banking firms nowadays

 

I feel a bit desensitised to all of this now, there was probably countless other gatherings that happened. It is blatantly clear that repercussions and responsibility are not concerns of the Johnson government.

 

Nothing's gonna change for sure until Johnson's gone, if this contributes to that, I'm all for it, but I'm not holding my breath.

I feel a bit desensitised to all of this now, there was probably countless other gatherings that happened. It is blatantly clear that repercussions and responsibility are not concerns of the Johnson government.

 

Nothing's gonna change for sure until Johnson's gone, if this contributes to that, I'm all for it, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

This stuff sticks though, the Tories got such a large majority because of Johnson (with a few other factors thrown in too). I think this stuff cuts quite deep as there is a pattern and it does feed in to the "do as we say, not as we do" attitude. Now you can argue by the time an election rolls round, voters will have forgotten, which could well be the case. But Johnson was box office to the Tories. Truss, Sunak or Gove might do well but none of them are going to capture the public like Johnson did.

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Look even Ryanair feels like they can take pot shots. (Their social media is excellent)

To be fair, Suedy, you seem a tad obsessed over Boris supposed lying. Everyone lies, even if only white lies. Can you honestly say you've never ever even told a white lie in your entire life. I know I have. I rang in sick to attend a job interview in 1978. not thinking the prospective new employer would ring for a reference that very afternoon. :o Strolled in next day "Christopher, in my office please..." :(

Jo0hnson is the Prime Minister. he doesn't just tell a few white lies, he frequently tells absolute whoppers. I accept the fact that we will often be governed by a PM I don't agree with. However, I don't want to have a PM who I cannot trust at all.

 

This lying clown made a statement just a few weeks ago about a different party, one he appears not to have attended. He described himself as outraged that government officials had been flouting the Covid laws. Maybe what he actually meant was that he was outraged that he wasn't able to attend that particular party, even more so if somebody else was paying for it.

 

He looks a bit broken to be honest. Almost as if he knows there's no wiggle room on this one. Can see how he is going to try and worm his way out of it though.

 

I'm more interested in who decided to leak to ITV once Cummings let the cat out of the bag.

I don't care who leaked it. One of the basic rules of politics, especially for ministers, is to assume that any misdemeanours will make it into the press eventually. If Johnson didn't want stories about parties to appear in the press, there was one very simple way of ensuring that. Don't have any parties.

This stuff sticks though, the Tories got such a large majority because of Johnson (with a few other factors thrown in too). I think this stuff cuts quite deep as there is a pattern and it does feed in to the "do as we say, not as we do" attitude. Now you can argue by the time an election rolls round, voters will have forgotten, which could well be the case. But Johnson was box office to the Tories. Truss, Sunak or Gove might do well but none of them are going to capture the public like Johnson did.

 

It’ll stick, even Phillip Schofield was introducing PMQs at 12 on This Morning which says all you need to know about how it’ll effect things!

If Phillip Schofield has turned on him, maybe it is near the end. I still remember those awful selfies.

This stuff sticks though, the Tories got such a large majority because of Johnson (with a few other factors thrown in too). I think this stuff cuts quite deep as there is a pattern and it does feed in to the "do as we say, not as we do" attitude. Now you can argue by the time an election rolls round, voters will have forgotten, which could well be the case. But Johnson was box office to the Tories. Truss, Sunak or Gove might do well but none of them are going to capture the public like Johnson did.

 

I don’t think the public will forget Johnson’s behaviour or his parties shambolic handling of the pandemic by the next election. Covid has been an extraordinary event for lots of people - many people have lost loved ones and many have suffered trauma too. The damage done by this will stay for quite some time and even if Johnson manages to stay in office, I highly suspect there will be other incidents that come out of the closet at some point in the future.

After avoiding not getting infected for almost two years, I just tested positive last Saturday oops. I kinda expected though considering everyone in my circle have been testing positive after holidays.

 

I don't even recall having any symptoms (maybe felt a bit fatigue last Thursday) and I only went to get tested because I wanted to travel lol. I guess I'm sitting home for now.

 

Thanks god for the booster and having minimal to none symptoms when infected.

 

What are peoples thoughts about cutting the isolation period from 7 to 5 days? This worries me to be honest. They have already cut it from 10 days and its not based on proper medical research. It appears to be more a political thing to help the economy rather than ensuring people are protected. I don’t trust anything that the Tories say or do regarding covid.

 

Given that everything we are hearing about omicron is that it's basically just flu I'm not fussed. I know a bunch of people that have had it now including my own brother and none have had any issue with it at all, ranging from at worst a flu to at mildest just a little fatigue.

I do find it surprising and/or strange that as far as I can see, pretty much zero journalists or media outlets have asked the question or approached the Party-gate situation from the angle:

 

"If they were so happy to mix, was it actually REQUIRED for us not to medically/scientifically, like they insisted it was? Or was that just a political choice to appear to be doing SOMETHING."

 

Obviously if politicians were happy to mix they didn't feel personally threatened by covid.

I do find it surprising and/or strange that as far as I can see, pretty much zero journalists or media outlets have asked the question or approached the Party-gate situation from the angle:

 

"If they were so happy to mix, was it actually REQUIRED for us not to medically/scientifically, like they insisted it was? Or was that just a political choice to appear to be doing SOMETHING."

 

Obviously if politicians were happy to mix they didn't feel personally threatened by covid.

 

There was still so much unknown at the time, we were barely 2 months in to the pandemic. Lots of them were probably happy to mix as covid went through Number 10 in February/March time so they all likely thought they had immunity and like we have all said. It more feeds in to the narrative "one rule for us, one rule for everyone else" which is what appears to be a consistent pattern with Johnson in particular.

I do find it surprising and/or strange that as far as I can see, pretty much zero journalists or media outlets have asked the question or approached the Party-gate situation from the angle:

 

"If they were so happy to mix, was it actually REQUIRED for us not to medically/scientifically, like they insisted it was? Or was that just a political choice to appear to be doing SOMETHING."

 

Obviously if politicians were happy to mix they didn't feel personally threatened by covid.

 

I think definitely it was this.

There was still so much unknown at the time, we were barely 2 months in to the pandemic. Lots of them were probably happy to mix as covid went through Number 10 in February/March time so they all likely thought they had immunity and like we have all said. It more feeds in to the narrative "one rule for us, one rule for everyone else" which is what appears to be a consistent pattern with Johnson in particular.

 

If so much was unknown then why would they risk it? Or the parties at Christmas when more was known? Or all the parties that we haven’t heard about yet?

If so much was unknown then why would they risk it? Or the parties at Christmas when more was known? Or all the parties that we haven’t heard about yet?

 

Well firstly because they likely don't care and secondly because the chief people involved probably thought it was fine because they had natural immunity. This does not make it right btw, but can see the invitation was sent to well over 100 people and allegedly 30 people turned up. So more people thought it was a bad idea than a good idea. Suspect most of the ones who went were young, had natural immunity or thought they were above everyone else.

 

Good news in the UK a least is it looks like Omicron has peaked, which hopefully bodes well for the rest of Europe that they are peaking now or going to peak in the coming days.

Numbers here in Berlin are absolutely insane. We’re defo leading this wave (not the first time we’ve been the trail blazer) so the numbers in the rest of Germany are gonna be wild over the next month. Think we’re a good fortnight from the peak here maybe but NYE will defo be driving these numbers. I know so many people struck down with it from a NY party even tho there was supposed to be 2G rules in force for private parties (lol as if) and only 10 people (lol again, as if)

 

 

I do agree tho Roo that a fast peak is likely and looks good for us all. Should take a hit now and in Feb and be on smoother sailing as we get to the part of the year that are more economically important (as Jan and Feb tend to be quite depressed months in the aftermath of Xmas)

Given the news of further lockdown parties held on the eve of Prince Phillips funeral, can it really get any worse for the Tories? It’s only a matter of time before Johnson goes but whoever replaces him won’t have an easy time. The only saving grace for the Tories is they are over two years away from another general election and they will be hoping the general public will have forgiven or forgotten by then. I think there will certainly be a protest vote at the local elections, which may be the time when Johnson is forced out if not before.

Edited January 14, 20223 yr by slowdown73

This just in - anti-vaxxers are taking feminising HRTs to try and cure COVID.

 

https://www.them.us/story/spironolactone-co...19-hrt-fox-news