disappointing update for Tomn Greenan's album :/ really thought he'd do double than what he's doing

Levismashing is back

How did I miss this :cheeseblock:

 

What a gigantic hit! A second reset please OCC!

Tom has already surpassed the first week total of his last album, I'm not sure why people had such high expectations for it? He's doing perfectly fine.

Guessing Central Cee will overtake Thunder for the #2 by Friday.

I’m guessing Olivia has risen to #16 from Monday’s midweeks.

I’m guessing Olivia has risen to #16 from Monday’s midweeks.

You guess correctly.

Thunder holding up much better than I thought but am glad Tom Grennan will be number 1, hopefully himself and ella hold on where they are in the singles.

Gradual ACR still completely defeats the object in my eyes. A song has its time, peaks, and then declines and gets booted off to ACR. The initial drop looks weird but after that it's less strange. A gradually increasing ratio for a few weeks to transition from SCR to ACR would be even more artificial because it's spread out over time rather than just one big drop downwards before it resumes stability, just lower down the chart. 1-16 will be weird and slightly jarring but it'll stabilise next week of course! It's not about pretty chart runs when, as things stand, Olivia's ACR drop will be ushering in a brand new top 10 hit. That's what the OCC will care more about.

 

 

I'm not really sure if this makes sense.....but instead of downweighting streams, why not upweight sales? For example, an album sale equals 10 chart points and an album stream 1 chart point etc. I think this would mean the top end of the chart would be kept fresher with new releases, and it'd even out further down. I think this would reduce the impact of passive streams at the top of the chart. I get that some fanbase acts would probably release different versions over a few weeks for multiple fan sales, but there's less of an impact with that I think, and a person at least has to actively buy multiple copies.

Surprised but delighted to see On The Ground is still top 40 in this update.

 

I was just hoping to see it reach the top 100 at the start of the week.

I disagree with the notion that explaining ACR would be "too confusing" for a casual listener/follower. You'd not need to go into the nitty gritty details but at least something along the lines of once a song is over a certain number of weeks old it receives a penalty. A very loose explanation yes but a lot better than bullshitting every time it happens on the chart that "everyone has suddenly stopped listen to this en masse in this random specific week".

I think it's not been very well integrated into the public perception of the charts. The chart show (to my knowledge) doesn't acknowledge the existence of it, neither does the chart itself, offering no distinction between an ACR drop or an organic drop. For that matter, the Official Charts site does not mention it anywhere that one would feasibly look to find an explanation. Plenty of word space to how it's the only chart that's officially recognised, but they've never considered adding this odd factor into their FAQ in the last 4 years. As is you're forced to embellish details if you want to communicate the idea to someone, because putting it simply doesn't put across why for instance "God's Plan" drops to #10 allowing the equally old in chart terms "These Days" to get sucked into the #1 spot, meanwhile the 6 month older in chart terms "Feel It Still" also gets to stay chilling in the top 3. Or why some old songs get reset and some don't. Or everything that happened with "I Don't Care" & "Sunflower". A chart is allowed to have rules like these but if the chart on its own is depicting chaos without even beginning to try itself to explain it, it's a failure of information communication, its only purpose.

Edited March 17, 20215 yr by Dircadirca

Album tracks one all ways get me streaming album why does just count as 1 album streaming. nope count each song get stream separately. So listen each song song on album also counts 1 stream top 3 song on album

So would wellerman be looking at numer 1 regardless of DL not being acr

That's a good lead for Wellerman even though the missing data should favour Latest Trends. Hopefully Wellerman is safe for number 1 this week, would be good to see something different at the top!

I totally didn't see 'Wellerman' being this enduring when it first entered the chart!

That's a good lead for Wellerman even though the missing data should favour Latest Trends. Hopefully Wellerman is safe for number 1 this week, would be good to see something different at the top!

 

It's expanded its lead by 3k since Monday, it's definitely safe!

well I was thinking Tom Grennan would do much better cos album 1 was launched on the back of zero hits and

now she has 2 simultaneous top 20 hits, just for that I was expecting much better

well I was thinking Tom Grennan would do much better cos album 1 was launched on the back of zero hits and

now she has 2 simultaneous top 20 hits, just for that I was expecting much better

Neither hit has made the top 20, just the lower end of the top 30

but come on they're huge hits, both would be top 10 if it weren't for the poor Spotify support

Isn’t Tom at 12 in the midweeks and the other ones at 21?

^ yes and those are his first Top 40 singles, but also I think his is more of a streaming audience than most of the recent #1 albums, so his sales perhaps won't be so frontloaded to the first week.