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Yeah I was expecting much worse. I wonder if it’ll hang around the lower end of the top 100 for a few weeks.
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I was saying #11 wasn't that bad given she isn't really a bonafide STAR and KNOWN NAME last week and everyone was berating it and now a fall to #63(!) is considered a success by the people that were calling #11 a flop :') It's disastrous a drop - and shows there really isn't much interest in the album in its second week and she isn't really cared for much outside of her not too large "fanbase" that bought it last week.

 

Expecting it to be #89 instead is probably like a couple hundred sales difference so is it really much better than that?

 

The reaction to #63 being better than the reaction to #11 is hilarious - the album chart is a joke / or people are trying to big up her success moreso to make it seem like there's still a shelflife to the era / make it seem like she's actually doing well with this :kink:

She's absolutely not doing well by any stretch of the imagination and this era has been a complete disaster in the commercial stakes :cry:

 

I'm just taking what small mercies I can from it :lol:

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I was saying #11 wasn't that bad given she isn't really a bonafide STAR and KNOWN NAME last week and everyone was berating it and now a fall to #63(!) is considered a success by the people that were calling #11 a flop :') It's disastrous a drop - and shows there really isn't much interest in the album in its second week and she isn't really cared for much outside of her not too large "fanbase" that bought it last week.

 

Expecting it to be #89 instead is probably like a couple hundred sales difference so is it really much better than that?

 

The reaction to #63 being better than the reaction to #11 is hilarious - the album chart is a joke / or people are trying to big up her success moreso to make it seem like there's still a shelflife to the era / make it seem like she's actually doing well with this :kink:

 

The pattern I was expecting was 2-OUT OF THE CHARTS, #2 in week 1 cos nowadays everybody's gone mental with the multi-buying multi-format with every fan buying 20 versions, even acts with the tiniest fanbase can do well cos of that, but they only buy on week 1 so you're out of the charts on week 2... only thing that holds you up is streaming, if you have that your decent is slowed down... so I take it as Ava doesn't have the fanbase so it underperformed in week 1 but has some streams so it held better than expected in week 2.

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A lot of Top 10 albums fall straight out of the Top 100 in week 2, so I’ll take 11-63 as something of a win even if that seems a bit ludicrous on the surface.

 

All these albums with higher peaks in 2022 fell as low as #63 or worse:

 

01-63 Paul Heaton & Jacqui Abbott - N.K-Pop

01-71 Yungblud - Yungblud

01-72 Frank Turner - FTHC

01-96 The Wombats - Fix Yourself Not the World

01-139 Don Broco - Amazing Things

02-74 Sigrid - How to Let Go

02-118 Porcupine Tree - Closure/Continuation

02-128 Marillion - An Hour Before It's Dark

02-132 George Michael - Older [Reissue]

02-187 Easy Life - Maybe in Another Life

02-xxx Father John Misty - Chloe and the Next 20th Century

03-72 Jack White - Fear of the Dawn

03-88 Placebo - Never Let Me Go

03-92 Rina Sawayama - Hold the Girl

03-105 The Snuts - Burn the Empire

03-140 Jamie Webster - Moments

03-146 Megadeth - The Sick The Dying and the Dead

03-197 Sports Team - Gulp

03-xxx Sea Girls - Homesick

04-91 Beabadoobee - Beatopia

04-104 James Bay - Leap

04-109 Chase & Status - What Came Before

04-110 Marcus Mumford - (Self-Titled)

04-136 Johnny Marr - Fever Dreams Pts 1-4

04-140 Everything Everything - Raw Data Feel

04-155 Jack White - Entering Heaven Alive

04-158 Shinedown - Planet Zero

04-174 Pale Waves - Unwanted

04-xxx Sea Power - Everything Was Forever

04-xxx Manic Street Preachers - Know Your Enemy [Reissue]

05-87 The Smile - A Light for Attracting Attention

05-93 The Black Keys - Dropout Boogie

05-103 The Divine Comedy - Charmed Life - The Best Of

05-143 Kylie Minogue - Impossible Princess [Reissue]

05-173 Panic! At the Disco - Viva Las Vengenace

05-185 David Bowie - Toy (Toy Box)

05-195 Thunder - Dopamine

05-xxx Feeder - Torpedo

05-xxx Spiritualized - Everything Was Beautiful

05-xxx The Amazons - How Will I Know If Heaven Can Find Me

05-xxx Mark Owen - Land of Dreams

06-90 Mitski - Laurell Hell

06-107 Elvis Costello & The Impostors - The Boy Named If

06-112 Will Young - 20 Years - The Greatest Hits

06-133 Queen - The Miracle [Reissue]

06-140 Alter Bridge - Pawns & King

06-xxx James Morrison - Greatest Hits

06-xxx Bear's Den - Blue Hours

06-xxx Michael Head/Red Elastic Band - Dear Scott

06-xxx Maggie Rogers - Surrender

06-xxx Oasis - Be Here Now [Reissue]

06-xxx Massive Wagons - Triggered

07-64 Pusha T - It's Almost Dry

07-108 Craig David - 22

07-125 Demi Lovato - Holy Fvck

07-xxx Scarlet Rebels - See Through Blue

07-xxx Metronomy - Small World

07-xxx The Coral - The Coral [Reissue]

07-xxx Franz Ferdinand - Hits to the Head

07-xxx Sam Tompkins - Who Do You Pray To

07-xxx Matt Goss - The Beautiful Unknown

07-xxx Bloc Party - Alpha Games

07-xxx Soft Cell - Happiness Not Included

07-xxx Tom Odell - Best Day of My Life

08-65 BTS - Proof

08-73 Ella Henderson - Everything I Didn't Say

08-112 UB40 feat. Ali Campbell & Astro - Unprecedented

08-184 Aurora - The Gods We Can Touch

08-xxx Korn - Requiem

08-xxx Kae Tempest - The Line Is a Curve

08-xxx Belle & Sebastian - A Bit of Previous

09-80 Charlie Puth - Charlie

09-88 Camila Cabello - Familia

09-144 Koffee - Gifted

09-174 The Cure - Wish

09-197 Jethro Tull - The Zealot Gene

09-xxx The Sherlocks - World I Understand

09-xxx The Mysterines - Reeling

09-xxx Halestorm - Back from the Dead

09-xxx Embrace - How to Be a Person Like Other People

09-xxx Big Moon - Here Is Everything

10-195 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Cool It Down

10-xxx Gang of Youths - Angel in Realtime

10-xxx Editors - EBM

 

Relatively speaking a #11 entry being as “high” as #63 in week 2 isn’t bad going in terms of how the album chart operates these days... it would be more expected for a #11 to leave the Top 100 or perhaps even the Top 200. So honestly I understand and agree with the reaction to that in this thread! There’s at least some indication of mild interest in her album, which it should be stressed doesn’t include anything bigger than a #83 peaking single.

I just dont get why this era is flopping, every song is such a bopppp! Poor ava, she deserves so much better
After the #11 debut it had all the signs of a top 10-20 debut then out of the top 100 type of run. The fact it’s stayed in is good. Should it have done better? Most probably yes, but it is what it is.
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I was saying #11 wasn't that bad given she isn't really a bonafide STAR and KNOWN NAME last week and everyone was berating it and now a fall to #63(!) is considered a success by the people that were calling #11 a flop :') It's disastrous a drop - and shows there really isn't much interest in the album in its second week and she isn't really cared for much outside of her not too large "fanbase" that bought it last week.

I'd say this is unfair and not sure if it's just because you don't like her or not?

 

It happens to a lot of pop artists, however, they are still able to get sell out tours and sustain a solid fanbase. Even people who probably aren't seemed to be the same calibre as the likes of Carly & Tove - Madison Beer, Sabrina Carpenter all have recently had sold out tours and a solid fanbase, with sustained interest in them but isn't hugely reflective in their chart history (maybe due to the way we consume music now and their demographic) and I'm pretty sure Ava could do the same should she go on tour, I definetly think she has a solid fanbase but probably won't get much more commercial success but doesn't mean to say there is little to no interest in her as an artist exactly.

I think that's what I mean! That those artists have toured their music (some non-stop) but Ava hasn't despite releasing two albums. I think she should tour because that is a key way to secure a loyal fan base but also explore your music in a different way and let it connect with people in new ways.

 

She is apparently touring for the first time this year so that's exciting at least. Touring is also a lot more profitable than simply releasing music so her label should be fighting for it too.

I think it’s good that she’s finally doing a tour. We also have to take in the fact that she wasn’t able to do a tour circuit with her debut because it was released during the pandemic, so maybe doing it now with a more extensive discography/more recognizable songs under her belt would be a better way to get word of mouth going.
I didn't connect with any of the pre-release material unfortunately but I'm loving the album track 'Last Night On Earth' :wub: punchy intergalactic 80s synth realness
Absolutely obsessed with 'Dancing's Done' and I do hope it becomes the next single :cheeseblock:

BBC is playing 'Ghost', hopefully 'Dancing's Done' is the one to get the big push after that.

 

But then the BBC was also playing 'Faster' by The Saturdays and that never happened as a single, so who knows.

The usual 4 cities. YAWN!

 

I'm TIRED of artists only doing the big 4 cities :drama:

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