As for the content I suggested, I want to see a list of the biggest songs of each year with updated totals. For example, the biggest songs released in 2002 with updated streams, sales and downloads. I’m sure the updated top 100 of that year would look very different compared to the year end chart

needs who.....me?! *sprints over to keyboard* >:3

 

Yep all soundtrack album that chart only compilations do anything now music dreamboats and petticoats 1 year the annual 1 year rest cheep cd the hits album or best in the world album

Yep. It’s always Greatest Showman or a Now album at #1 on the compilation chart. Sales are only above 10k when it’s a numbered Now. Even a Now spin-off fails to go above 10k in its first week

1952-1982 sales data please :)

I also asked for these sales. Also a Top 200 albums chart and updated all-time sales for singles and albums. And more sales data with their web news stories.

Filled in the survery! Interesting to see what changes they will make soon. I wonder if they will included some sort of recurrency rule (doubtful).

 

I suggested moving greatest hits albums to their own chart or put them in the compilation chart. Would be nice for new albums not to have the massive drops we currently see. ~1/4 of the top 100 albums are greatest hits albums currently.

"You have already completed this survey. Thank you for your time."

 

I remember doing an OCC survey a while ago, but before clicking I thought maybe they'd disregarded that survey if they were asking us about it again. But apparently what I filled in back then still stands!

 

(Just checked and it was in June 2021!!)

"You have already completed this survey. Thank you for your time."

 

I remember doing an OCC survey a while ago, but before clicking I thought maybe they'd disregarded that survey if they were asking us about it again. But apparently what I filled in back then still stands!

 

(Just checked and it was in June 2021!!)

It’s just a dodgy link on the forum, try directly from the official chart website page

It’s just a dodgy link on the forum, try directly from the official chart website page

Both links in my original post work fine for me!

Either every song should have every sale and stream counted equally, or every song should stop having streams counted once someone hits a cap. I'm VERY for the latter (I don't have the data to back it up, but 5 or 10 streams counted (and then no more) would surely give more songs a chance - and give sales which do not generate further reportable listens a fairer chance - speeding up the chart...)

Thing with this is that it might seem sound in theory, but in reality, the actual experience is probably not what you expect. Take for instance, a select handful of songs and their ratio of listeners:plays on last.fm, which doesn't really correlate to 'long charting songs are propelled by the same people playing it again and again'

(I've always said in the case of The Killers, people do not actually listen to it that often, it's just that it's had 2 decades of pop culture relevance so it's known by *soooooo* many more people than anything new in the charts. If these people stream it once a year, it'll clown on most of the current hits)

Edited April 15, 20232 yr by Dircadirca

I guess I might as well post this here since there's a discussion on it. I came up with my own ACR system and tried to calculate/estimate what the charts would be if I used it. The #1s for 2022 came out like this:

 

Ed Sheeran - Merry Christmas (carry over from 2021)

GAYLE - abcdefu (2 weeks)

Encanto - We Don't Talk About Bruno (4 weeks)

Ed Sheeran - The Joker And the Queen (1 week)

Fireboy DML - Peru (1 week)

Lost Frequencies - Where Are You Now (1 week)

Dave - Starlight (2 weeks)

Aitch - Baby (2 weeks)

Harry Styles - As It Was (4 weeks)

Jack Harlow - First Class (1 week)

Cat Burns - Go (1 week)

Sam Ryder - SPACE MAN (1 week)

Harry Styles - Late Night Talking (1 week)

Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (4 weeks)

LF System - Afraid To Feel (4 weeks)

Central Cee - Doja (1 week)

Beyonce - Break My Soul (2 weeks)

Eliza Rose - BOTA (2 weeks so far)

 

I stopped here because my method makes Christmas songs difficult to calculate because I have to go back to previous years to estimate what their ACR ratios would be, and it was tedious lol so I stopped. I might go back and continue this, or try and write a program that can do it automatically.

 

I calculated the entire top 10 for each of these weeks using my system and I was actually really happy with the results, it really looked more like the charts from before streaming. There were a few quirks. As It Was, the biggest song of the year, only spent 10 weeks in the top 10, less than songs like Go and Crazy What Love Can Do (because they kept reaching new peaks and getting resets). But we have quirks like that with the current official chart anyway.

 

I think the charts were realistic and not too drastically altered. All the #1s were songs that made #1 or 2 officially, the exception being Where Are You Now but it was a year-end top 10 hit iirc with great longevity so I think that's fine, and all of them apart from The Joker and The Queen I would say were actual hits. Most songs were peaking earlier. For example Kate Bush got #1 2 weeks early, LF System were 1 week early, I think BOTA was 1 week early as well. And once a song peaks with my method it falls down the chart gracefully, so no weird unnatural drops. the chart runs look more like from the physical era or download era. And it's also basically impossible for a song to stabilise and hang around for years with this method. Every week the ACR ratio is made stronger. Green Green Grass and As It Was certainly would not be in the top 40 right now.

 

The lowest-peaking song officially that made top 10 with my method is Big Energy by Latto, which scraped in at #10 one week. All the other top 10s were official top 20 hits.

 

It's not perfect, (I think people would probably complain that there aren't any super long-running #1s) but while I was doing this I was excited every week to plug in the new sales data and see what comes out, and I prefer my chart to the OCC's chart personally.

wrote almost a novel on the free section about how streams from playlists shouldn't count for the album charts

and how nobody is streaming Elton John-Diamonds but the This is Elton John playlist instead so that shouldn't count.

Not sure if I could take part though as Im not in the UK.

This Is The Weeknd playlist hogging the top 10 pushing actual, deserving albums down the chart

 

PinkPantheress done dirty by Official Charts Company + dodgy ACR calculations for Levitating that was supposed to get a 2nd reset. I will always remember that. Payola Sheeran and Lewis Capaldi gaming the charts with fake signed CDs. I'm complained about a lot to them.

It seems that the OCC website is being relaunched, or at least revamped, next month along with the OCC itself also getting a refreshed brand identity. Other than that I don't know anything further about what this involves. I guess it's a case of "watch this space"...