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Just now, DanielCarey said:

I agree with this. Keep the silent ones. You can still see the pretty lights, but without the very loud bangs.

It’s worse when you’re trying to sleep and you have people setting them off at stupid o’clock

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Just now, Hadji said:

It’s worse when you’re trying to sleep and you have people setting them off at stupid o’clock

Local ordinance laws say stop by a certain time, but some hooligans continue to do them after those times.

34 minutes ago, Hadji said:

Most laundering happens from cash only businesses. Making businesses take both cash and card will most likely help to crack it down and I agree about the vape shops. As for straws, lots of other countries use plastic straws and I remember Trump talking about banning paper straws over in America and I stand by what I said when I said paper straws are a choking hazard

Trump was being populist trying to show off how he hates the environment to get support from his idiot base.

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For context: left-wing commentator Hasan Piker and his uncle Cenk Uyghur, founder of the Young Turks organisation have been banned from entering the UK to speak at a convention.

jeez I find Hasan a little off-colour sometimes but he's normally just fine as a political commentator if a bit dumb, what on earth are we doing here as a country?

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9 minutes ago, Suedehead2 said:

Successive governments have banned people from entering the UK.

Arguably so much less effective when these commentators can be freely watched in the UK.

Also, so? We shouldn't be banning commentators in a liberal society unless they're actively out to harm people with their rhetoric and even then it should be something considered with seriousness by the government and laid out with clear reasons - I don't see any clear reasons here just: 'may not be conducive to the public good' from the Home Office. Which could mean anything.

28 minutes ago, Iz様 🌟 said:

Arguably so much less effective when these commentators can be freely watched in the UK.

Also, so? We shouldn't be banning commentators in a liberal society unless they're actively out to harm people with their rhetoric and even then it should be something considered with seriousness by the government and laid out with clear reasons - I don't see any clear reasons here just: 'may not be conducive to the public good' from the Home Office. Which could mean anything.

Banning orders have been used very sparingly, which means I haven't yet objected to any.

It’s funny how he goes silent for Henry Nowak but when George Floyd was killed, Starmer was constantly addressing the matter. If the guy who stabbed Henry Nowak stabbed Tommy Robinson instead, he’d be labelled as a hero

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3 hours ago, Hadji said:

It’s funny how he goes silent for Henry Nowak but when George Floyd was killed, Starmer was constantly addressing the matter. If the guy who stabbed Henry Nowak stabbed Tommy Robinson instead, he’d be labelled as a hero

I’m not sure a culture war is helpful here and the incidents are completely different.

Usually I stick up for the police, but I think this is a clear example of major police failings. I guess the one comfort to take is from what I had read, the wounds were fatal so even if the police had responded correctly, it’s unlikely the life would have been saved. That said, there were major failings here and that bodycam footage is horrendous.

Utterly reprehensible behaviour from that officer, quite rightly he has since resigned. Disgraceful...

8 hours ago, Hadji said:

It’s funny how he goes silent for Henry Nowak but when George Floyd was killed, Starmer was constantly addressing the matter. If the guy who stabbed Henry Nowak stabbed Tommy Robinson instead, he’d be labelled as a hero

This is really not needed at all. George Floyd's murder was one of many representations of systemic issues with racism in policing and was the straw that broke the camel's back. This is a tragic murder caused by an evil individual manipulating and feigning victimhood and a result of police negligence (I haven't seen the footage and don't intend to) that absolutely should be investigated, but I don't see how this is seem as a wider symptom of anti-white bias or how this can be turned back on the sikh community like certain voices seem to be doing, turning this into a culture war completely takes away from the tragedy of a young man dying.

11 hours ago, Hadji said:

It’s funny how he goes silent for Henry Nowak but when George Floyd was killed, Starmer was constantly addressing the matter. If the guy who stabbed Henry Nowak stabbed Tommy Robinson instead, he’d be labelled as a hero

Except that Starmer hasn't been silent at all. He, rightly, waited for the legal process to be completed. Farage, OTOH, has tried to stir up racial hatred, completely ignoring the wishes of Henry Nowak's parents.

Just now, Suedehead2 said:

Except that Starmer hasn't been silent at all. He, rightly, waited for the legal process to be completed. Farage, OTOH, has tried to stir up racial hatred, completely ignoring the wishes of Henry Nowak's parents.

Tommy Robinson another one jumping on the bandwagon trying to stir up racial hate and division, going against Henry’s parents wishes

Why did the officers not check if he had stab wounds when he said?

Do the police normally just Belive one group over another in situations like this?

The fact I am now seeing people on social media trying to start a 'White Lives Matter' movement and saying it's not safe to be a white person in the UK any more.

I hate this country.

9 hours ago, Steve201 said:

Why did the officers not check if he had stab wounds when he said?

Do the police normally just Belive one group over another in situations like this?

I would think (and hope) that this was just one bad apple and most officers would be more reasonable and less presumptive in their approach.

It's absolutely ludicrous how this Nowak case has gone.

Police were called BY A BROWN FAMILY under false pretenses to a location where six or seven members of the family claimed to have been assaulted by a white man.

Police, naturally, moved to apprehend this person.

And this is being spun by the media and rightwing politicians as "evidence police ALWAYS see white people as culprits"???

It's an utterly inane line of argument to make, trying to make some kind of systemic conclusion based on one freak mistake the root of which was a deliberate attempt to pervert the course of justice.

The officers DID check that he had stab wounds. This happened in December and although he had been stabbed in the back, as it was winter and cold he was thickly layered up and it wasn't for that reason immediately obvious.

I am not out to defend the police here, simply highlighting that there is a lot of deliberate falsehood being shared about this case in order to try and manufacture a race war. The police didn't "jump to a conclusion because he was white", they were deliberately misled by people with ill intention.

6 hours ago, J00prstar said:

The officers DID check that he had stab wounds. This happened in December and although he had been stabbed in the back, as it was winter and cold he was thickly layered up and it wasn't for that reason immediately obvious.

I am not out to defend the police here, simply highlighting that there is a lot of deliberate falsehood being shared about this case in order to try and manufacture a race war. The police didn't "jump to a conclusion because he was white", they were deliberately misled by people with ill intention.

This is what most of the news articles fail to explain which is why it was confusing me a lot especially when a large group who were all family were making the allegations. Any normal person would be suspicious. As Dobbo said let’s hope it’s one bad apple. Or more likely it was a long day for the officer and they made a mistake.

I have a lot of sympathy for the police as they are thrown into many difficult, dangerous and complex situations daily and it’s easy for social media to pass judgement very quickly.

Especially the usual right winger using it for their own agenda.

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