But where would Ed be on Spotify if numbers were not so low? Also if so many songs weren’t on ACR he would be lower in the official charts.

Shape of You is the biggest hit of the century lol

2 minutes ago, Zeebre12 said:

But where would Ed be on Spotify if numbers were not so low? Also if so many songs weren’t on ACR he would be lower in the official charts.

If numbers were higher he would likewise probably be on higher numbers too.

2 minutes ago, Liam S said:

Whatever way you want to look at it for Ed to be down at 22 after 17 days is not great. Shape of you was still doing 900k+ after 17 days

I and at little are looking at it compared to the market 🤭 and as noted above lot of the top 10 is old songs 🤣

Plus countless times its been mentioned he doing better on other platforms 🤷 and 3 weeks top 3 from isn't bad when you look at the market 😉

12 minutes ago, Liam S said:

Whatever way you want to look at it for Ed to be down at 22 after 17 days is not great. Shape of you was still doing 900k+ after 17 days

Comparing to one of the biggest hits of all time is going to make almost any other song look worse off.

This discourse is tiring me out because I don't think we're actually getting anywhere - numbers can be spun any which way, even if you're #3 in the official chart seemingly.

I’m not Ed’s biggest fan but I echo the comments above about how ridiculous it is to label it a flop when it’s stable in the top 3? Yes the numbers aren’t that great but neither are any of the rest across the board? Just because he isn’t doing huge numbers like previous singles have done doesn’t make it a flop lol, stable in the top 3 is the opposite. Some people are just clutching at straws

40 minutes ago, gooddelta said:

I’ve also been trying to remember the last British single to spend three weeks in the top three from debut (assuming Ed makes it three on Friday). Was it Sprinter?

Whatever it is, it’s an extremely rare feat anyway these days when British acts are having a much harder time in the charts, and certainly the complete opposite of a flop in the modern charts.

Unless you count J Hus feat. Drake - Who Told You (as the featured artist is of course Canadian) which opened with 3 weeks at #2 starting the week after 'Sprinter'.

50 minutes ago, Steve201 said:

‘All I Ever Asked’ was the standout when I first listened to Rachel’s album this time last year so great to see it gaining traction.

 

Is it the playlisting there or random?

Amazon has playlists like the others. They tend to have be more quick to update with newer music/entries than spotify playlists. There's also an element of Alexa I would gather too. From what I can see, Amazon makes up ~25% of the market 2nd to spotify with ~45%. Apple has ~20% market share. Youtube Music also now has ~5% of the UK streaming market which is interesting. I think the growth of Youtube Music may explain why spotify is not the be all end all as it once was. Spotify I think had as much as 60% market share for subscriber previously. So it's slowly been coming down over the year. Apple + Amazon + Youtube Music are now a bigger market share than spotify. This is all based on subscribers though. Spotify likely has a higher number of free users still.

And if we going with the shape of you comparison, let's play fair then,

I'd love to be proven wrong but I dont think Alex will even be relevant this long after "his biggest hit ever" to even be having thos sort of conversation in the first place

Let’s compare Ariana she was doing multiple 1M plus days in the UK and Twilight Zone is out the top 50 already (4 weeks if that)

I think I said this before but we can’t keep branding artists a flop just because they haven’t reached the numbers they were doing at their peak!

Ed being at 3 officially is nowhere close to a flop, maybe we thought he’d be higher than 22 on Spotify but you only have to look at the Spotify chart to see the same HUGE songs sticking around forever and anything new seems to struggle.

Spotify Chart Update (21/04)

01 01 Alex Warren – Ordinary 496,224

02 02 Chappell Roan – Pink Pony Club 288,818

03 05 Gracie Abrams – That’s So True 264,865

04 03 Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER 263,053

05 04 Lola Young – Messy 262,073

06 06 Gigi Perez – Sailor Song 255,280

07 09 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 226,305

08 07 ROSÉ, Bruno Mars – APT. 224,262

09 13 Tate McRae – Sports car 223,494

10 10 Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars – Die With A Smile 216,763

11 14 sombr – back to friends 215,321 PEAK

12 18 sombr – undressed 209,474 PEAK

13 12 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 208,040

14 15 Ravyn Lenae – Love Me Not 204,880 PEAK

15 11 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 203,131

16 17 Sabrina Carpenter – Taste 199,507

17 19 Sabrina Carpenter – Busy Woman 191,871

18 16 WizTheMc, bees & honey – Show Me Love 189,510

19 20 Drake – NOKIA 180,936

20 21 Hozier – Too Sweet 176,566

21 22 Doechii – Anxiety 175,914

22 08 Ed Sheeran, Googoosh – Azizam (feat. Googoosh) [Persian Version] 175,123

23 23 Dream Supplier, Baby Sleeps, Background White Noise – Clean Baby Sleep White Noise (Loopable) 170,390

24 28 Lady Gaga – Abracadabra 156,867

25 26 Chrystal, NOTION – The Days - NOTION Remix 156,355

26 33 Kendrick Lamar, SZA – All The Stars (with SZA) 155,312

27 25 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 152,837

28 35 Tate McRae – Revolving door 152,740

29 29 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 151,858

30 31 Benson Boone – Sorry I'm Here For Someone Else 144,570

31 27 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 144,495

32 40 The Goo Goo Dolls – Iris 142,148

33 30 Teddy Swims – Bad Dreams 141,879

34 42 Lil Tecca – Dark Thoughts 139,984

35 24 Fleetwood Mac – Dreams - 2004 Remaster 139,780

36 45 Kendrick Lamar, SZA – luther (with sza) 138,573

37 32 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 137,803

38 41 Kendrick Lamar – Not Like Us 135,751

39 37 Alex Warren – Carry You Home 135,608

40 44 Sabrina Carpenter – Please Please Please 135,317

59 61 Myles Smith – Nice To Meet You 110,924

60 53 Chappell Roan – The Giver 109,458

61 65 d4vd – Feel It (From “Invincible”) 109,345

64 50 Addison Rae – Headphones On 106,119

66 78 Blood Orange – Champagne Coast 102,029 PEAK

71 68 MOLIY, Silent Addy, Skillibeng, Shenseea – Shake It To The Max (FLY) - Remix 97,021

72 88 Leon Thomas – MUTT 96,495

73 74 Jack Black – Steve's Lava Chicken 95,750 PEAK

76 124 JENNIE – like JENNIE 93,885

84 109 Ariana Grande – twilight zone 91,164

92 181 Charli xcx – party 4 u 88,385 PEAK

98 134 Sydney Rose – We Hug Now 86,423

108 99 Ely Oaks – Running Around 83,684

148 162 Selena Gomez, benny blanco – Bluest Flame 74,492

150 118 Morgan Seatree, Florence + The Machine – Say My Name - Remix 74,136

155 170 Sleep Token – Caramel 73,524

Apple Music Chart Update (22/04)

01 01 Alex Warren - Ordinary

02 02 Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club

03 03 Lola Young - Messy

04 05 Ed Sheeran - Azizam

05 06 Doechii - Anxiety

06 04 ROSÉ & Bruno Mars - APT.

07 07 Gracie Abrams - That’s So True

08 08 Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile

09 09 Teddy Swims - Bad Dreams

10 11 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)

11 10 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things

12 13 Drake - NOKIA

13 14 WizTheMc & bees & honey - Show Me Love

14 12 Sabrina Carpenter - Taste

15 16 Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER

16 15 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso

17 17 Myles Smith - Stargazing

18 21 Sonny Fodera & Clementine Douglas - Tell Me

19 19 Lady Gaga - Abracadabra

20 18 Sabrina Carpenter - Bed Chem

21 23 CHRYSTAL & NOTION - The Days (NOTION Remix)

22 20 Benson Boone - Sorry I'm Here For Someone Else

23 25 Tate McRae - Sports car

24 22 Sonny Fodera, Jazzy & D.O.D - Somedays

25 26 Rudimental & Khalid - All I Know

26 24 Myles Smith - Nice To Meet You

27 27 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us

28 28 Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen)

29 30 MOLIY, Silent Addy, Skillibeng & Shenseea - Shake It To The Max (FLY) [Remix]

30 29 Teddy Swims - Lose Control

31 33 Nathan Dawe & Abi Flynn - Here In Your Arms

32 35 Sabrina Carpenter - Busy Woman

33 34 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe!

34 42 sombr - undressed

35 39 Tate McRae - Revolving door

36 31 The Killers - Mr. Brightside

37 38 Kendrick Lamar & SZA - luther

38 37 Chappell Roan - The Giver

39 36 Noah Kahan - Stick Season

40 43 Shaboozey & Myles Smith - Blink Twice

45 47 Ravyn Lenae - Love Me Not

47 51 Morgan Wallen & Post Malone - I Ain't Comin' Back

49 49 Ely Oaks - Running Around

51 53 sombr - back to friends

55 62 David Guetta & Sia - Beautiful People

57 58 Davido - Offa Me (feat. Victoria Monét)

65 77 Leon Thomas - MUTT

71 84 Blair Muir - REHAB

74 87 Alex Warren - Carry You Home

75 91 Jazzy & Ankhoï - Closer To The Floor

81 93 Shallipopi - Laho

82 115 Skye Newman - Hairdresser

84 134 Addison Rae - Headphones On

85 92 Miley Cyrus - End of the World

127 147 Morgan Wallen - I'm The Problem

135 NE Charli xcx - party 4 u

142 152 JADE - FUFN (f*** You For Now)

144 188 Sleep Token - Caramel

145 169 Davido - With You (feat. Omah Lay)

154 197 Leon Thomas & Chris Brown - MUTT (CB REMIX)

156 180 Morgan Seatree & Florence + the Machine - Say My Name (Remix)

163 191 James Hype - Don't Wake Me Up

174 109 Jack Black - Steve's Lava Chicken

190 RE PinkPantheress - Tonight

194 RE Lady Gaga - How Bad Do U Want Me

199 RE Morgan Wallen - Just In Case

How Bad Do U Want Me coming for WIGS!!!

7 minutes ago, RobBot said:

How Bad Do U Want Me coming for WIGS!!!

I believe it's the next single in Australia. Hope they push it here soon and release a music video!

But nobody is saying Ed is a flop

You Ed stans are twisting peoples words

Its an underperformance considering who he is

Barely 200K daily on Spotify

But it is how it is, without tiktok virality

The GP doesnt care who you are

The old tiktok hits from 6 mo-1 year ago are still doing 50% more than Azizam

12 hours ago, omrimayo said:

It is a flop.

1 hour ago, Bjork said:

But nobody is saying Ed is a flop

I don't even like Ed but this "discussion" is so tiring. Even though he is not as popular as he once was, he is still doing decent numbers in his home country which is what this thread is about. Globally though, it is clearly an underperformance, no matter how you look at it.

But all he needs to do is release something as Amazon exclusive next Christmas and he'll get an easy #1 again.

Ed released a new version this week and a video for the song so anything less than 40k for the week would be pretty underwhelming

3 hours ago, Bjork said:

But nobody is saying Ed is a flop

You Ed stans are twisting peoples words

Its an underperformance considering who he is

Barely 200K daily on Spotify

But it is how it is, without tiktok virality

The GP doesnt care who you are

The old tiktok hits from 6 mo-1 year ago are still doing 50% more than Azizam

Your basically the biggest advocate of trying to prove it's a flop 🤣

10 minutes ago, Liam S said:

Ed released a new version this week and a video for the song so anything less than 40k for the week would be pretty underwhelming

Soa again a different rule for Ed is basically what your saying , artists have released loads of remixes and they made very little difference

Heck the wedding version of ordinary didn't exactly do loads and loads 🤣