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Noooooo :( Seriously what's the point in PAYING to download a single? You're just paying for the track and artist name on a screen and that's it really, not adding to a collection and not really something you can show! Unless it's a strictly download only single I refuse to pay to download music! If record companies don't make my preferred format available then why should I pay for it?

 

u are so right.... download singles are pointless what's the point of buying for something that u can get for free????

the only way to save CD singles is :

1.to stock more of them everywhere even in supermarkets

2.to make them cheaper,

3. to include videos in them and cd-rom features.....

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Don't forget What A Wonderful World last december

 

good example :thumbup:

 

lots of people came into Zavvi actually asking where it was.

Bring back the bargain bins! Used to be a highlight of a visit to Woolworths to pick through 10p/49p/99p singles..

Ah the good old days of the Woolies bargain bin! How I got started collecting singles in the first place. Cassettes in those days as they where cheaper. I only went over to CDs in 2003 when I was forced to as the only way to get Changes by Ozzy and Kelly! I have to smile when someone my age (25) or more wanders in to Zavvi looking for a current single on tape which still happens occassionaly!

Back to topic, if I remember rightly Virgin actually stopped singles but in my store (Swindon) at least Zavvi brought them back and in a proper chart wall too, though considerably smaller than the original Virgin Chart wall of 10+ years ago. I have to say I don't bother with Zavvi singles unless HMV don't have them or have overpriced them. Also my Zavvi doesn't do Vinyl which is most of my purchases these days. Woolies don't have any singles hardly now unless u want one of there several dozen copies of Headlines that are still full price months later!

With regard to supermarkets selling the X Factor single because it is a guaranteed seller, in the Sainsburys where I work we are still stuck with about 100 copies of Leon which where 2.99 then 1.99 now 99p and still not selling!! The current Leona one which we are stocking is selling much faster!

 

Just a thought could we run a national survey to find out what stores stock what range of singles in different towns and cities to more accurately judge the national picture?

 

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Just a thought could we run a national survey to find out what stores stock what range of singles in different towns and cities to more accurately judge the national picture?

 

 

Go for it

Well if the prices wern't so pathetic...

 

My point Exactly...

 

To be honest I've seen it coming, once you bought the physical, you play it once or twice, than its shunted to the back of the cupboard, and with the digital age, people are adding them to their ipods.

 

We could be having the same conversation again next month when HMV announce their singles review.

 

I've stopped buying CD singles a lot time ago, the only time I buy CD singles is to keep my Kylie and Pet Shop Boys collection to date. I just buy 7inch vinyls now when they have limited or rare editions, for example coloured vinyls and picture discs.

 

i think its good that there is still collectors out there.

 

Ah the good old days of the Woolies bargain bin! How I got started collecting singles in the first place. Cassettes in those days as they where cheaper. I only went over to CDs in 2003 when I was forced to as the only way to get Changes by Ozzy and Kelly! I have to smile when someone my age (25) or more wanders in to Zavvi looking for a current single on tape which still happens occassionaly!

Back to topic, if I remember rightly Virgin actually stopped singles but in my store (Swindon) at least Zavvi brought them back and in a proper chart wall too, though considerably smaller than the original Virgin Chart wall of 10+ years ago. I have to say I don't bother with Zavvi singles unless HMV don't have them or have overpriced them. Also my Zavvi doesn't do Vinyl which is most of my purchases these days. Woolies don't have any singles hardly now unless u want one of there several dozen copies of Headlines that are still full price months later!

With regard to supermarkets selling the X Factor single because it is a guaranteed seller, in the Sainsburys where I work we are still stuck with about 100 copies of Leon which where 2.99 then 1.99 now 99p and still not selling!! The current Leona one which we are stocking is selling much faster!

 

Just a thought could we run a national survey to find out what stores stock what range of singles in different towns and cities to more accurately judge the national picture?

 

yeah sometimes its weird that zavvi stock a (non top 40) certain single and hmv doesnt and the other way round - and its a pitty the indie stores which are overflowing with vinyl singles cant compete on their level as they are slightly more expensive and dont do multibuys

Why haven't record labels tried to stop the decline in physical sales?

 

One big campaign would bring them back. I have a vision of a Channel 4 documentary series igniting nostalgia. Then the series would show new formats, new rules and lower prices taking place, the struggle to get music shops/supermarkets back, releasing songs sooner etc. Tie this in with a big week for physical singles (like Leona/McFly/Take That/Britney/Freemasons in October) and people would be interested again.

Why haven't record labels tried to stop the decline in physical sales?

Money. It's easier to download and they make far more money from them. There is little or no point in the physical format any more. On the whole people don't want them.

Money. It's easier to download and they make far more money from them. There is little or no point in the physical format any more. On the whole people don't want them.

 

The above is a brutal analysis.

 

...... But is 100% correct.

 

Economically what is the point of record companies to produce CD singles which people then do not want to buy in Woolworths, HMV, etc, when it is far more profitable for then to have the songs available for download for the people to be able to purchase as and when they want.

 

The bottom line is that the Physical single is on as shaky ground as the vinyl & cassette albums were in the early 1990s. Very soon they will be "ex-(Norwegian Blue) parrots" :lol: With the only way you will be able to buy physical singles in the format you require will be by pre-ordering them via the Record Company/Fan Club (i.e. what Radiohead have done with their ground-breaking In Rainbows album where you could advance pre-order personalised special edition vinyl copies of the said album).

Tbh, I'm not fussed if they scape Physical Singles, I just hope they don't get rid of Physical Albums, like, EVER.
With regard to supermarkets selling the X Factor single because it is a guaranteed seller, in the Sainsburys where I work we are still stuck with about 100 copies of Leon which where 2.99 then 1.99 now 99p and still not selling!!

 

Yeah thats EXACTLY the same in my local Sainsburys, maybe its the same Sainsburys

Also the Internet and downloading is what people mostly do nowadays so if they want a song they will download it because they cant be bothered to go out and go 45 minutes on a bus just to get a single they want when they can do it from the warmth of their home!
Why would you buy the new Kylie single for £2.97 when for £2 more you can get her album?

 

caus' u can get the B-SIdes and remixes....

 

From a fans/collectors point of view I agree but from a 'Joe publics' point of view that has little or no interest in bonus b-sides/remixes etc, then a £3 single versus a £5 album offers little incentive to buy a single by the artist!

Personally, I believe that impulse buys would work. A range of 1-Track CD singles for 79p-99p each, placed next to the tills in both supermarkets and music shops.
Personally, I believe that impulse buys would work. A range of 1-Track CD singles for 79p-99p each, placed next to the tills in both supermarkets and music shops.

 

Panic have a one track only CD single for 99p available!

 

Panic have a one track only CD single for 99p available!

 

Yes, I think Estelle does as well. More shops will have to stock them and they would have to be strategically placed for 1-Track CDs to work though. And maybe they'd all have to be 1-tracks as Panic At The Disco at the moment could be at a disadvantage because they only have 1 track, compared to the others with 3-4.

 

On top of this, other formats of the single could be available online for the 'real' fans with extra tracks, possibly even 3 formats for £5. The point is there are some methods to try, but nothing has been done.

Personally, I believe that impulse buys would work. A range of 1-Track CD singles for 79p-99p each, placed next to the tills in both supermarkets and music shops.

They may do, yes. But again, what would be the point? It would be completely pointless for any record company to do this. If they do they have to have production costs (hiring the factory, staff, plastic for the cd, the cd itself, the sleeve, printing), distribution costs, retailer profit, other costs the retailer incurs (storage, wages etc), various taxes and all for just a measly 99p! This would then take away sales of downloads which are the same price and they make far more money from them, because all they need to do is upload it to each download store once, not once everytime someone buys it.

 

What you said may seem like a good idea but realistically it will not happen, only a fool would allow it.

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