Posted May 3, 200817 yr Well, as the title says - back in 2000 (when there were over 45 #1 singles) singles were advertised and promoted to death pre release resulting in high debuts and front loaded sales. So, here are the #1 singles of 2008 so far (thanks to Martin): 12 Jan Leon Jackson When You Believe 19 Jan Basshunter Now You’re Gone 26 Jan Basshunter Now You’re Gone 02 Feb Basshunter Now You’re Gone 09 Feb Basshunter Now You’re Gone 16 Feb Basshuner Now You’re Gone 23 Feb Duffy Mercy 01 Mar Duffy Mercy 08 Mar Duffy Mercy 15 Mar Duffy Mercy 22 Mar Duffy Mercy 29 Mar 51.857 Estelle featuring Kanye West American Boy 05 Apr 60.497 Estelle featuring Kanye West American Boy 12 Apr Estelle featuring Kanye West American Boy 19 Apr Estelle featuring Kanye West American Boy 26 Apr Madonna & Justin 4 Minutes 04 May Madonna & Justin 4 Minutes The bold weeks are the physical release weeks of the #1 of the year so far. So, given the above, I have put together what I think would have been #1 each week if the promotion and sales climate today was like that of 2000: 01 12 Jan Leon Jackson - When You Believe 02 19 Jan Basshunter - Now You’re Gone 03 26 Jan Basshunter - Now You’re Gone 04 02 Feb Adele – Chasing Pavements 05 09 Feb Adele – Chasing Pavements 06 16 Feb Adele – Chasing Pavements 07 23 Feb Nickelback – Rockstar 08 01 Mar Nickelback – Rockstar 09 08 Mar Duffy - Mercy 10 15 Mar H20 feat Platnum – Whats It Gonna Be? 11 22 Mar Leona Lewis - Better In Time / Footprints In The Sand 12 29 Mar Leona Lewis - Better In Time / Footprints In The Sand 13 05 Apr Estelle featuring Kanye West - American Boy 14 12 Apr Flo-Rida feat. T-Pain - Low 15 19 Apr Sam Sparro - Black And Gold 16 26 Apr Sam Sparro - Black And Gold 17 04 May Madonna & Justin - 4 Minutes Feel free to pick it apart and add your own suggestions - I really think that Rockstar could be an old fashioned #1 climber in the days of physicals - it did happen now and then!
May 3, 200817 yr Well Basshunter was #1 on physicals for each of the 5 weeks it was number one. I think it would've stayed there for its whole stay, maybe one week of Adele.
May 3, 200817 yr Feel free to pick it apart and add your own suggestions - I really think that Rockstar could be an old fashioned #1 climber in the days of physicals - it did happen now and then! Not in 2000 they weren't. 2000 was the year of high peaks, and then out of the chart within 2 months. I suspect H2O would have been massive in a 2000 climate.
May 4, 200817 yr H 'Two' O would have been a huge selling No.1 if released in 2000, your list looks fairly accurate Jester...a track like Basshunter's would have never had 5 weeks at No.1 in 2000 so 1 or 2 weeks is about right not sure that Rockstar would have got to No.1 in 2000...it would have disappeared from shops by xmas and assuming promotion and hype were still front loaded, it would have never found a way back up the chart
May 4, 200817 yr I pretty much agree with Jester's list, but I think Don't Stop The Music would have been #1 too. By the way, none of Basshunter's weeks at number 1 were on downloads only but Duffy had two weeks on downloads.
May 4, 200817 yr I agree with what has been said. Rihanna would probably have possibly been number 1 and Nickelback woudnt have been anywhere near the top.
May 4, 200817 yr Author List updated to adjust my faulty download only memory :P I was clutching at straws with nickelback - but can't think of anything else that could have been #1 then...
May 4, 200817 yr If it wasn't for downloads i don't think Rockstar would have ever been a hit, it would have disappeared before it became a monster like it is now
May 4, 200817 yr List updated to adjust my faulty download only memory :P I was clutching at straws with nickelback - but can't think of anything else that could have been #1 then... To be fair anything could've been number one. 2000 was the year the most dull and average songs got there on hype alone. 'Us Against The World' would definitely have been number one. -_-
May 4, 200817 yr To be fair anything could've been number one. 2000 was the year the most dull and average songs got there on hype alone. 'Us Against The World' would definitely have been number one. -_- Spot on, as it would have been promoted on Saturday morning children chart TV programmes like CD:UK & TOTP: Reload. It would have debuted at #1 then dropped 8 places the following week. That is the main reason why manufactured teen-pop is struggling at the moment because it has not got a good enough outlet to hype the singles in a Mcfly style first week surge before plummeting in the following weeks. I'd also put money that if those Saturday morning TV shows still existed that Simon Cowell would have cashed in and rush released a single by Same Difference (i.e. their cover of Breaking Free) which would have topped the charts by now.
May 4, 200817 yr Spot on, as it would have been promoted on Saturday morning children chart TV programmes like CD:UK & TOTP: Reload. It would have debuted at #1 then dropped 8 places the following week. That is the main reason why manufactured teen-pop is struggling at the moment because it has not got a good enough outlet to hype the singles in a Mcfly style first week surge before plummeting in the following weeks. I'd also put money that if those Saturday morning TV shows still existed that Simon Cowell would have cashed in and rush released a single by Same Difference (i.e. their cover of Breaking Free) which would have topped the charts by now. Spot on, something i also pointed out in another thread in the Pop forum. Another vehicle which teen-pop heavily relied upon was pop magazines like Smash Hits. Most 90s boybands got fame on the back of the smash hits tours.
May 4, 200817 yr Here's what I'd say... (like 2000, but with todays tastes) 6/1 Leon 13/1 Basshunter 20/1 Adele 27/1 Basshunter 3/2 Kelly Rowland 10/2 Rihanna 17/2 Feeling 24/2 H 'Two' O 2/3 Duffy 9/3 Westlife 16/3 Duffy 23/3 Estelle 30/3 Flo Rida 6/4 Kooks 13/4 Sam Sparro 20/4 Sam Sparro 27/4 Madonna 3/5 Madonna Not entirely sure with release dates though... Edited May 4, 200817 yr by RabbitFurCoat
May 4, 200817 yr Here's what I'd say... (like 2000, but with todays tastes) 6/1 Leon 13/1 Basshunter 20/1 Adele 27/1 Basshunter 3/2 Kelly Rowland 10/2 Rihanna 17/2 Feeling 24/2 H 'Two' O 2/3 Duffy 9/3 Westlife 16/3 Duffy 23/3 Estelle 30/3 Flo Rida 6/4 Kooks 13/4 Sam Sparro 20/4 Sam Sparro 27/4 Madonna 3/5 Madonna Not entirely sure with release dates though... I think thats an even faster chart than in 2000. If we multiply the chart position by the number of weeks its been in the chart, we'll get an interesting chart: (this is for the chart 2/3/08) Position/ Actual OCC Chart #/ Number of wks OCC Chart/ Artist/ Song/ Points (no. wks multiplied by OCC #) 1 1 3 Duffy Mercy 3 2 2 3 H20 Whats It Gonna Be? 6 3 8 3 One Republic Stop And Stare 24 4 32 1 Deliquent ft Kcat My Destiny 32 5 11 3 Taio Cruz Come On Girl 33 6 4 9 Basshunter Now You're Gone 36 7 6 7 Adele Chasing Pavements 42 8 45 1 Young Knives Up All Night 45 9 23 2 Alphabeat Facination 46 10 12 4 Flo Rida Low 48 11 53 1 Alicia Keys Like You'll Never See Me Again 53 12 54 1 Marco Demark Tiny Dancer 54 13 5 11 Kylie Minogue Wow 55 14 3 20 Nickelback Rockstar 60 15 9 7 David Jordan Sun Goes Down 63 16 16 4 Timbaland Scream 64 17 64 1 Sugababes Denial 64 18 17 4 Goldfrapp A & E 68 19 69 1 BWO Sunshine In The Rain 69 20 35 2 Girls Aloud Can't Speak French 70 21 71 1 T Pain Church 71 22 18 4 The Feeling I Thought It Was Over 72 23 25 3 Utah Saints Something Good 08 75 24 19 4 Chris Brown With You 76 25 38 2 Leona Lewis Better In Time/ Footprints In The Sand 76 26 10 8 Kelly Rowland Work 80 27 40 2 Westlife Us Against The World 80 28 14 6 One Night Only Just For Tonight 84 29 7 13 Rihanna Don't Stop The Music 91 30 50 2 Sean Kingston Take You There 100 31 57 2 Foals Cassius 114 32 65 2 R.E.M Supernatural Superserious 130 33 47 3 Simple Plan When I'm Gone 141 34 29 5 Hot Chip Ready For The Floor 145 35 27 6 Jay Sean Ride It 162 36 15 11 Britney Spears Piece Of Me 165 37 59 3 Out Of Office Break Of Dawn 08 177 38 36 5 Mark Ronson ft Phantom Planet Just 180 39 61 3 Vampire Weekend A Punk 183 40 24 8 Lupe Fiasco Superstar 192 41 51 4 Yael Naim New Soul 204 42 43 5 Craig David 6 Of 1 Thing 215 43 48 5 Mark Brown The Journey Continues 240 44 31 8 Wombats Moving To New York 248 45 60 5 Adele Hometown Glory 300 46 28 11 Mika Relax 308 47 13 24 Mark Ronson ft Amy Winehouse Valerie 312 48 46 7 Mary J Blige Just Fine 322 49 21 16 Soulja Boy Crank That 336 50 39 9 Robyn Be Mine 351 51 37 10 Kanye West Homecoming 370 52 55 7 Paramore Misery Buisness 385 53 30 13 Scouting For Girls Elvis Ain't Dead 390 54 20 20 Take That Rule The World 400 55 52 8 Duffy Rockferry 416 56 26 18 Alicia Keys No-one 468 57 22 22 Timbaland ft One Republic Apologise 484 58 34 15 Girls Aloud Call The Shots 510 59 44 13 Cascada What Hurts The Most 572 60 33 19 Leona Bleeding Love 627 61 58 11 Micheal Buble Lost 638 62 41 16 T2 feat Jodie Heartbroken 656 63 49 15 Mark Ronson Stop Me 735 64 63 14 Amy Macdonald This Is The Life 882 65 70 21 Hoosiers Goodbye Mr A 1470 66 56 27 Scouting For Girls She's So Lovely 1512 67 68 24 Sugababes About You Now 1632 68 42 42 Rihanna Umbrella 1764 69 74 27 Foo Fighters The Pretender 1998 70 66 31 Kate Nash Foundations 2046 71 73 31 Newton Falkner Dream Catch Me 2263 72 67 34 Amy Winehouse Back To Black 2278 73 72 40 Mika Grace Kelly 2880 74 62 57 Amy Winehouse Rehab 3534 75 75 75 Snow Patrol Chasing Cars 5625 Deliquent got a new entry at #32, and made #4 on this chart, BWO, Sugababes, Young Knives, Alicia Keys and Marco Demark went top 20 on their first week. Long runner Nickelback fell from 3 to 14, and Valerie fell from 13 to 47, and Rihanna fell from 7 to 29. I think the chart is quite accurate for 2000, although Snow Patrols chart run would be like- 3-4-7-11-12-15-21-24-35-46-49-60-63-62-65-67-68-71-72-71-73-73-74-74-74-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-75-OUt The total number of points is 40700, down from 41746 the week before. That might represent how slow the chart is. Edited May 4, 200817 yr by Harve
May 5, 200817 yr Interesting thread Jester but let’s think about this if 2008 had the same level of physical sales as 2000 then: Top 3’s would shift at least >80k No1’s usually >150k Sales >80k make ‘physical single’ acts viable even with indifferent album sales. Record companies would manufacture acts to maximise profitable single sales mainly targeted at teenagers. We’d therefore have a whole range of manufactured acts we don’t have now (because sales are too low to support them) clogging up the top of the charts. Perhaps only Basshunter, Rihanna, H20 and Madonna would have had one week No1’s. The likes of Adele, Duffy ect would have been drowned out or maybe even never signed in the first place as record companies would be too busy designing new acts to appeal to teenage girls. It’s actually a scary thought as to what state the charts would be in now if physical sales hadn’t collapsed in the early 00’s!!
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