All of those are clearly influenced by European pop/dance music but moreso I meant boy/girl band intentionally cheesy pop I guess. I can't see that ever making a chart return.

 

Yeah. Maybe not. I'm shocked it ever got popular in the first place though! :o Thing was, back then, I was at an age where that type of music appealed to me, so it didn't seem weird to me then, and back then those pop songs, and the songs from the 70's and 80's that my parents used to force on me, was pretty much all I was exposed to. I didn't know about people like Jay-Z and Snoop Dogg back then, even if they were in the charts.

 

Now, looking back, it can't've been just young children buying those songs, surely? But at the same time I can't imagine full grown adults, or even teenagers listening to Steps, S Club 7 or even Britney Spears, etc! :lol: Very strange. I agree, I can't see that sort of thing making a comeback.

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It does count for less if a song goes to #1 'by default' on lower sales. But it won't be so bad for M5 than for, say, Nero, since they have had good sales in the previous weeks. It would just feel wrong if it got to #1 on the 'wrong' week, which looks fairly likely to happen now unless Sak Noel can hold on for 2 weeks.

 

I don't like the term, though I can understand why some people use it. To me, no.1 is no.1. If you sell more copies of your track than anybody else then you are no.1, whatever actual sales might be. The vast majority of people who follow the charts i.e. listen on a Sunday afternoon won't know (or care) what sales levels are. They will just see a record at no.1.

 

Given sales so far you could argue that MLJ is a very 'deserving' no.1. And indeed given what total sales this track is likely to amass would be considered very unlucky to miss out on the top spot. Indeed one of the highest selling singles not to make no.1, were that to happen.

The week after next it looks like we'll either be getting a climber to #1, or a 2-weeker at #1 then. Unless something comes out of nowhere and debuts there, but I can't think of anything.

The week after next it looks like we'll either be getting a climber to #1, or a 2-weeker at #1 then. Unless something comes out of nowhere and debuts there, but I can't think of anything.

 

Well we can pray for Maroon 5 to get it but I think we'll get stuck with Loca People for 2 weeks :puke2:

Well we can pray for Maroon 5 to get it but I think we'll get stuck with Loca People for 2 weeks :puke2:

 

I hope Maroon 5 get there aswell. There's usually a massive song every year which misses #1, but we've already had Rolling in the Deep. We don't need two of them. :lol:

I loved a lot of them at the time (Meck, Cabin Crew, Sunblock) but time hasn't been kind to them really and I have no desire to listen to them now! :lol:

They've aged well in my head. :P I guess it was the start of my proper love for music too, so will probably always sound great to me. Meck's track in particular is still one of my all time favourites. :wub:

I don't like the term, though I can understand why some people use it. To me, no.1 is no.1. If you sell more copies of your track than anybody else then you are no.1, whatever actual sales might be. The vast majority of people who follow the charts i.e. listen on a Sunday afternoon won't know (or care) what sales levels are. They will just see a record at no.1.

 

Given sales so far you could argue that MLJ is a very 'deserving' no.1. And indeed given what total sales this track is likely to amass would be considered very unlucky to miss out on the top spot. Indeed one of the highest selling singles not to make no.1, were that to happen.

 

But members of the BuzzJack UK Chart Forum are not the vast majority of people who follow the charts. Fair enough, most people would see that I Gotta Feeling and Swagger Jagger both made #1 so they must have been equally successful, but that's not the case on here so it's a bit of an irrelevant point.

 

Based on its overall sales Maroon 5 should be a #1, yes. But if it goes to #1 when its sales have decreased from when it was at its most popular just because everything else is falling faster (i.e. 'going to #1 by default') then it doesn't 'deserve' to be #1 that week as much as it did on its fourth week when its sales were at their peak. If it wasn't a #1 when it was most popular why should it be a #1 when it's less popular?

 

I'm not saying that there's ever a #1 that's 'undeserving'. As you say, if it outsold everything else that week then it 'deserves' to be #1 for that week. There are just some #1s that are relatively less 'deserving' of #1 when compared to other #1s (such as Promises and Swagger Jagger).

 

I don't really like using the word 'deserve' when describing this but there's not really any other word you can use.

Edited September 24, 201113 yr by Bré

In America, Glee airs on a Tuesday and their charts are broadcasted on Friday's I think, yet they always seem to have top 50 hits all the time, however, this week 'You Can't Stop The Beat' got to #12 on their iTunes, while here it has only got to #37. It doesn't matter about only 3 days of sales there for Glee because it has way more hype in the Us, however, moving Glee to a Thursday here was a huge mistake. Normally a Glee song will get to between #20-#40 at best here oniTunes, which normally allowed it to chart at like #35 on the official chart because they used to broadcast on Mondays here. Now that it has moved to Thursday and only have about 3 days sales, Glee Cast have no hope of charting here anymore.

 

Sorry for my rambling xD

But members of the BuzzJack UK Chart Forum are not the vast majority of people who follow the charts. Fair enough, most people would see that I Gotta Feeling and Swagger Jagger both made #1 so they must have been equally successful, but that's not the case on here so it's a bit of an irrelevant point.

 

Agree totally, but I wanted to broaden my point out to all those people who just casually follow the charts, to whom no.1 is just no.1.

Perhaps it's because I'm old enough to remember the time when you never got weekly sales info of any kind and if you wanted to know who was no.1 you had to just listen to the charts on Radio One.....

 

Based on its overall sales Maroon 5 should be a #1, yes. But if it goes to #1 when its sales have decreased from when it was at its most popular just because everything else is falling faster (i.e. 'going to #1 by default') then it doesn't 'deserve' to be #1 that week as much as it did on its fourth week when its sales were at their peak. If it wasn't a #1 when it was most popular why should it be a #1 when it's less popular?

 

I guess you could see it as some kind of 'recognition' for all those high sales weeks at no.2. At the end of the day the chart is merely a sales list. Any track can only compete with those around it.

 

 

In America, Glee airs on a Tuesday and their charts are broadcasted on Friday's I think, yet they always seem to have top 50 hits all the time, however, this week 'You Can't Stop The Beat' got to #12 on their iTunes, while here it has only got to #37. It doesn't matter about only 3 days of sales there for Glee because it has way more hype in the Us, however, moving Glee to a Thursday here was a huge mistake. Normally a Glee song will get to between #20-#40 at best here oniTunes, which normally allowed it to chart at like #35 on the official chart because they used to broadcast on Mondays here. Now that it has moved to Thursday and only have about 3 days sales, Glee Cast have no hope of charting here anymore.

 

Sorry for my rambling xD

 

Good, because Glee is shite.

In America, Glee airs on a Tuesday and their charts are broadcasted on Friday's I think, yet they always seem to have top 50 hits all the time, however, this week 'You Can't Stop The Beat' got to #12 on their iTunes, while here it has only got to #37. It doesn't matter about only 3 days of sales there for Glee because it has way more hype in the Us, however, moving Glee to a Thursday here was a huge mistake. Normally a Glee song will get to between #20-#40 at best here oniTunes, which normally allowed it to chart at like #35 on the official chart because they used to broadcast on Mondays here. Now that it has moved to Thursday and only have about 3 days sales, Glee Cast have no hope of charting here anymore.

 

Sorry for my rambling xD

 

Actually, a really good/hyped Glee track could still chart - it could go top 40 off three days' sales (well, two and a bit really) given that "Judas" got to #16 (?) after a day and half despite never going to #1 on iTunes. It would also hold up better in its second week than its predecessors have, a song like "Loser Like Me" could have a chart run like 40-24-39 rather than 27-39-55.

wowowow Maroon5 BACK at #1. :o How many seperate occassions its got to #1 on iTunes I do not know, i've lost count.

Edited September 24, 201113 yr by Karma

wowowow Maroon5 BACK at #1. :o How many seperate occassions its got to #1 on iTunes I do not know, i've lost count.

 

This is its third spell at #1 as far as I'm aware. It also overtook Example and Pixie Lott by the end of the week (but it didn't overtake One Direction until after Dappy got to #1).

 

It may have also been #1 for a bit before Example got there? I can't remember.

I don't like the term, though I can understand why some people use it. To me, no.1 is no.1. If you sell more copies of your track than anybody else then you are no.1, whatever actual sales might be. The vast majority of people who follow the charts i.e. listen on a Sunday afternoon won't know (or care) what sales levels are. They will just see a record at no.1.

 

Given sales so far you could argue that MLJ is a very 'deserving' no.1. And indeed given what total sales this track is likely to amass would be considered very unlucky to miss out on the top spot. Indeed one of the highest selling singles not to make no.1, were that to happen.

 

Using that theory then, Rihanna's 'Whats My Name' wasn't a very deserving #1 then as it got there with lower sales than it did with the three weeks previous at #2. :)

I've just realised that Adam Levine could potentially knock himself off #1 in a few weeks' time if A) Sak Noel doesn't hold on for 2 weeks and B) Gym Class Heroes beat Matt Cardle to #1. It doesn't really count though since he's only a solo artist on one of them.

 

Using that theory then, Rihanna's 'Whats My Name' wasn't a very deserving #1 then as it got there with lower sales than it did with the three weeks previous at #2. :)

 

It was less 'deserving' of being #1 that particular week than the previous weeks when its sales were higher.

Edited September 24, 201113 yr by Bré

This is its third spell at #1 as far as I'm aware. It also overtook Example and Pixie Lott by the end of the week (but it didn't overtake One Direction until after Dappy got to #1).

 

It may have also been #1 for a bit before Example got there? I can't remember.

 

I wonder if it has spent more days at #1 on iTunes than any of the songs that held it off officially?

I wonder if it has spent more days at #1 on iTunes than any of the songs that held it off officially?

 

I think it's had a total of 6-8 days at #1 on iTunes in total which would put it roughly equal or slightly ahead of all the songs that have held it off #1, yes.

Edited September 24, 201113 yr by Bré

didnt like MLJ at first, but its grown on me, hope it gets to number one. Reminds me of Your Song with Ellie Goulding.

She spent SO long at number one on the itunes charts and then never actually made it to number one, when it was clearly the most popular track in the country at the time.

Bloody x factor :angry:

Please tell me nothing is released tomorrow so "MLJ" can go to #1!