November 25, 20195 yr The exact same applies to Labour contesting Yeovil, North Norfolk, Richmond Park and dozens in between. It does, however there are many more Lab-Con marginals than Lib-Con. Therefore the Tories will be hoping that the remain vote is nicely split to allow them to obtain a majority. In 88% of the most marginal seats that were won by the Tories in 2017, Labour came second.
November 25, 20195 yr Labour should have stopped contesting those seats even before Farage did the INEVITABLE. If I knew this sub 5% Farage result and the Tory pact was coming ... why didn't the Labour top brass? But they just don't trust Tory Jo. If they had a better leader, one that's not a yellow Tory, then they would have been able to do a pact. Well, if the Lib Dems had a better leader, then this Tory favouring election wouldn't even be happening. They would be in a temporary government for a second referendum, Bojo would have been deposed, and the election afterwards would have been under wildly different circumstances: 1. BBTory reigned in 2. Bojo embarrassed and shortest reigning pm ever 3. People seeing that the sky won't fall with Corbyn in no.10. 4. Tory brexit not passing at all.
November 25, 20195 yr Finally - something we agree on! :P And me too. This must be a first. :D Edited November 25, 20195 yr by common sense
November 25, 20195 yr Swinson definitely appears to be polling lower the more the public see of her, so maybe not being in the ITV debate last week worked in her favour? :shrug:
November 26, 20195 yr @1198880545998082048 Police and Crime Commissioner election... I had a similar poll in a leaflet sent out in Chelmsford claiming it was between Lib Dem and the Tories However in the last election (in fact 2 elections) Lib Dem have been a distant 3rd and Labour have made gains the last 2 years and in 2nd place.
November 26, 20195 yr Iain Dale Is Forced To Correct Lib Dem MEP ENTIRELY Over Johnson's Brexit Deal Actually, both are part right and part wrong. She’s right that this is no deal in all but name because it plays brinkmanship with the future relationship and the modeling on the future relationship in the deal shows a catastrophic loss to GDP. He’s right that if the deal passes there isn’t immediate disruption but he’s either thick or being deliberately misleading as the deal triggers a transition period where we are a quasi EU state and this disruption is pushed out to the end of the transition period. She is correct that the future relationship as stated in the deal requires customs checks and quite significant congestion at border crossings GB-EU Why is it that we’re the only ones willing to think critically about information presented to us and you just parrot absolute horseshit with no thought process. Bet that you completely ignore the valid points above because it doesn’t mean your preconceived perceptions and just focus on this paragraph because that is all you’re capable of. You can refute logic and facts with your spin and lies. You know your position is indefensible and yet here we are day after day
December 1, 20195 yr The Lib Dems have suspended a senior staff member after he tried to suppress a story about the party selling data to the Remain campaign in 2016 by investigative journalism site openDemocracy by forging an email and threatening them with legal action. You can read the full account of it on their website.
December 2, 20195 yr The Lib Dems have suspended a senior staff member after he tried to suppress a story about the party selling data to the Remain campaign in 2016 by investigative journalism site openDemocracy by forging an email and threatening them with legal action. You can read the full account of it on their website. At least they have (correctly) acted quickly over this. Meanwhile, the Tories responsible for the least honest campaign in living memory are still in their posts.
December 9, 20195 yr Just here to say that my Nan (86) who was originally from Austria and came over to the UK in the 1940s told me that she voted Liberal Democrat in her postal vote - she lives in Tunbridge Wells which is a Lab/Con marginal. I was most displeased at this news.
December 9, 20195 yr At least they have (correctly) acted quickly over this. Meanwhile, the Tories responsible for the least honest campaign in living memory are still in their posts. They may not be in 96 hours time.
December 9, 20195 yr Just here to say that my Nan (86) who was originally from Austria and came over to the UK in the 1940s told me that she voted Liberal Democrat in her postal vote - she lives in Tunbridge Wells which is a Lab/Con marginal. I was most displeased at this news. She must be a Remainer then.
December 9, 20195 yr Just here to say that my Nan (86) who was originally from Austria and came over to the UK in the 1940s told me that she voted Liberal Democrat in her postal vote - she lives in Tunbridge Wells which is a Lab/Con marginal. I was most displeased at this news. I wouldn't call a 16,500 majority marginal. The Lib Dems briefly put up a decent challenge in Tunbridge Wells and Labour only pulled ahead of them in 2015.
December 9, 20195 yr I wouldn't call a 16,500 majority marginal. The Lib Dems briefly put up a decent challenge in Tunbridge Wells and Labour only pulled ahead of them in 2015. Apologies, I meant a Tory seat in which Labour came second. Yeah there is no chance of dislodging Greg Clark but hopefully he continues to vote against the government however!
December 9, 20195 yr Apologies, I meant a Tory seat in which Labour came second. Yeah there is no chance of dislodging Greg Clark but hopefully he continues to vote against the government however! All prospective Tory candidates, including ones who were MP's, have had to agree in writing to Central Office, to vote with the government for Boris's deal but don't know about anything else.
December 9, 20195 yr Means bugger all Chris, once he's got his seat he can just vote against and, oh-no, lose the whip (like last time). Oh that 'll be so terrible/make no difference whatsoever.
December 9, 20195 yr Means bugger all Chris, once he's got his seat he can just vote against and, oh-no, lose the whip (like last time). Oh that 'll be so terrible/make no difference whatsoever. All MP's are ambitious though and want to become ministers or enter the hallowed cabinet. Not a good way to go about it to annoy the PM. Edited December 9, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas
December 10, 20195 yr All MP's are ambitious though and want to become ministers or enter the hallowed cabinet. Not a good way to go about it to annoy the PM. No they aren’t. Some are perfectly prepared to serve their constituents with no expectation of ministerial office.
December 10, 20195 yr No they aren’t. Some are perfectly prepared to serve their constituents with no expectation of ministerial office. Can you name one offhand? Edited December 10, 20195 yr by vidsanta
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