truly sickening crimes, rip to those who've lost their lives to this appalling and cowardly act of savagery, my thoughts are with their loved ones. :(

I can't really comment anything new on this subject. What an awful crime and my prayers go out to all of those families that are mourning their loved ones :(

 

As The Black Eyed Peas once sang, WHERE IS THE LOVE? :(

Donald Trump has contributed his thoughts in a tweet, and it's as delightful and tasteful as you can expect from him:

 

Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

 

Where's the mega manson?

 

Well let's be honest, terrorists will get their weapons no matter the policy (see Paris, Brussels). I'm not in favor of the US gun laws, absolutely not, but changing the gun law will most likely stop disturbed people who do things on impulse, and won't have that much effect on planned attacks (assuming this attack was planned as IS claimed it).

Yes, I realise. It is arguable that the topic of tightening gun control is now irrelevant to this event if it's indeed true that ISIS were responsible. It's kind of automatically true that gun control is now a topic that will be swept under the rug on this occasion now, but it still feels kind of unfortunate that what at first glance looked like it should be a catalyst for change will be so easily dismissed.

the cutest part about this is everyone from the right jumping on their soapbox to denounce "islamic terrorism" like they aren't out here trying to actively marginalize and terrorize queer and trans people on the daily. which is to say, not v cute at all, quite vomit-inducing

 

edit: yeah like that oompa loompa looking f***face chez quoted

Edited June 12, 20169 yr by dhwe

I can't really comment anything new on this subject. What an awful crime and my prayers go out to all of those families that are mourning their loved ones :(

 

As The Black Eyed Peas once sang, WHERE IS THE LOVE? :(

I wouldn't mind seeing a campaign to get that song to #1 in the charts in memory of who we've lost due to the attacks tbh. Lovely song :heart:

I will not have 50 queer lives commemorated with the Black Eyed fucking Peas. DIVINE OR NOTHING

Well let's be honest, terrorists will get their weapons no matter the policy (see Paris, Brussels). I'm not in favor of the US gun laws, absolutely not, but changing the gun law will most likely stop disturbed people who do things on impulse, and won't have that much effect on planned attacks (assuming this attack was planned as IS claimed it).

Obviously they haven't proved to be 100% foolproof, but weapon restrictions in most of Europe are a genuine barrier even to planned attacks, especially if they're by isolated 'lone wolves'. In the US that's not the case.

 

They're crude examples, but what could have happened during the London tube stabbing in December or the Lee Rigby murder if the perpetrators had guns instead of knives isn't worth thinking about.

I wouldn't mind seeing a campaign to get that song to #1 in the charts in memory of who we've lost due to the attacks tbh. Lovely song :heart:

no we don't need aural suffering to go with the emotional pain of this tragedy.

If any song is to go to number 1 it should be something appropriately anthemic and powerful for the community.

 

Like this:

 

Obviously they haven't proved to be 100% foolproof, but weapon restrictions in most of Europe are a genuine barrier even to planned attacks, especially if they're by isolated 'lone wolves'. In the US that's not the case.

 

I understand that. I'm not saying that the liberal US gun laws are not helping terrorists, I meant that terrorists will more likely have access to weapons regardless of laws. And I just realized I'm sort of defending their gun law which I don't intend to do as I think it's stupid.

 

Unfortunately, as Umi has stated, the whole issue will probably be under rug swept, especially if Trump wins the election.

no we don't need aural suffering to go with the emotional pain of this tragedy.

 

Right!

 

How many more until they get serious about guns!! Generations I reckon. Generations more of these qttacks.

This would be a much better choice

 

 

Alternatively, maybe an updated version of this (he's updated it many times over the years)

 

 

Or maybe the newly ennobled Sir Rod would like to promote this (or even record a new version)

 

 

 

I almost cried over this news. I have no words for it.

Well let's be honest, terrorists will get their weapons no matter the policy (see Paris, Brussels). I'm not in favor of the US gun laws, absolutely not, but changing the gun law will most likely stop disturbed people who do things on impulse, and won't have that much effect on planned attacks (assuming this attack was planned as IS claimed it).

 

And I know it's a different topic entirely but I wish we lived in a world where such a thing as religion didn't exist.

this wasn't a planned attack. this was a guy who saw two guys kissing in the street a couple of months ago so walked into a gun store and killed 50 ppl with what he bought.

 

the IS / religion link is tenuous at best.

the cutest part about this is everyone from the right jumping on their soapbox to denounce "islamic terrorism" like they aren't out here trying to actively marginalize and terrorize queer and trans people on the daily. which is to say, not v cute at all, quite vomit-inducing

 

edit: yeah like that oompa loompa looking f***face chez quoted

 

Right?

 

I noticed something kinda weird. Certain somebodies pump a lot of energy into legislating people's ability to use public restrooms because a man "might" get a wig and go into the women's room to attack girls and women. But when a person grabs an assault rifle and goes into a gay bar and murders 50 people, if you say "Maybe people shouldn't be able to own assault rifles," those same somebodies freak out and say you can't infringe on personal liberties like that. Anyone else find that incongruous?

this wasn't a planned attack. this was a guy who saw two guys kissing in the street a couple of months ago so walked into a gun store and killed 50 ppl with what he bought.

 

the IS / religion link is tenuous at best.

 

It wasn't a planned attack yet the moment he saw two men kissing happened a couple of months before he decided to kill over 50 people (with many more injured)? It wasn't really impulsive. If it really is down to his homophobia, he probably wanted to go on this killing spree during Gay Pride specifically.

 

I don't think the IS/religion link is tenuous at all. He pledged allegiance to ISIS, his Facebook profile says he's a proud Muslim and...

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldvi...6&tid=ss_tw

This is absolutely disgusting. :( Everytime a mass shooting happens in America there's an outcry for tighter gun laws but I really am starting to think it'll never happen. :(

 

RIP to all the victims of this atrocity. :(

Homophobia hasn't gone away and it never will, there will always be Hate-filled warped people.

 

Trump claiming his view as justified is entirely predictable. Using his own logic, then all Christians should also be banned from the USA because the vast majority of mass-shooting perpetrators are White Christian males. This is a fact. You could ban all Muslims, put them all in camps (as they did with the Japanese 70 years ago - ask george Takei) and it wouldn't change anything. mass murders will still go on for centuries, every year, as regular as clockwork, because you can walk into a megastore in Orlando and everywhere else, stick killing machines in your trolley and walk out.

 

I was preparing to take my niece and nephew to orlando next year but I've changed my mind now. I'm not risking their lives in an insane society that worships Guns and is happy to see children murdered rather than do the sane thing. If Gay Americans had any sense they would join a movement to get rid of guns and put political pressure on their representatives.

 

Nothing will happen though. There will be another mass murder by Christmas to take up news coverage, and so on until the end of time.

If Gay Americans had any sense they would join a movement to get rid of guns and put political pressure on their representatives.

 

What a silly and badly timed statement. If you don't think that there is already many groups trying to do this, than you are mistaken.

 

 

By Christmas? Statistically there will be at least 10 more before the end of June alone.

 

Mass shootings occurred at a rate of more than 1 per day in 2015. Since 1988 Great Britain has seen 3 (using the definition of a mass shooting being 4+ injuries/deaths). 46 people died in Hungerford, Dunblane and Cumbria.