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She certainly does. Was surprised when I looked up her age.

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Iโ€™m watching a documentary about the Kennedys on CNN at the moment and itโ€™s shows pelosi at JFKs inauguration in 1961 she was only 21!

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Iโ€™m watching a documentary about the Kennedys on CNN at the moment and itโ€™s shows pelosi at JFKs inauguration in 1961 she was only 21!

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Saw the first part the other night but have seen it before. Good series. Didn't notice her though.

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Anyone going to stay up on election night for the results? I'm planning to and I'm actually quite excited for it, especially as I wasn't able to stay up for the last UK general election.
Anyone going to stay up on election night for the results? I'm planning to and I'm actually quite excited for it, especially as I wasn't able to stay up for the last UK general election.

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Yes, though the likely big period, if any will be during my afternoon.

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Also remember that if we do get any results on election night, it's predicted to be what I've heard referred to as a 'red mirage', which is that because most of the in-person voters will be Republican, and as it takes time for dropped-off mail ballots to be counted, the result on the night, even up to the end of the night, may end up looking far more favourable to Trump than in reality.

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And in that case, that's where he'll start off with his 'stolen election' narrative.

really not "looking forward" to it but will be keeping up obviously out of a sense of obligation. if anything at least it won't be as bad as 2016 now that we've had him for 4 years. 2016 felt like the floor falling out from underneath.
If Biden really is on course for a near double digit win - itโ€™s not unlikely enough states get called election night. Obviously with the wide range of rules on voting/counting votes it wonโ€™t be all states called, but Iโ€™m fairly confident the trend will be obvious.
Anyone going to stay up on election night for the results? I'm planning to and I'm actually quite excited for it, especially as I wasn't able to stay up for the last UK general election.

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I may do. A US journalist has said one place to watch early, with results one of the first, at 7.15 pm EST last time, 12.15 am here, is a small place in Florida. Mostly over 70's with many over 80's and was overwhelmingly Trump last time. Now if that's gone blue we may as well go to bed he says as Biden's in for a landslide. I'll try and find the name again as the US networks will all be watching for it. Indeed Florida may be a very good pointer overall as Trump really needs it to win. There are few likely paths for him if he loses it but many if Biden loses Florida.

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Anyone going to stay up on election night for the results? I'm planning to and I'm actually quite excited for it, especially as I wasn't able to stay up for the last UK general election.

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I wonder why they don't seem to have an exit poll in the US election unlike the UK?

This place is such an echo chamber :lol:

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Anyway, in the most reliable polls from 2016, Trump seems to be leading in the crucial swing states. And considering how terrible they are at tracking the Trump voters, I'd say there is little chance for a Biden win, unless they manage to produce a lot of ballots for dead people. Y'all better buckle up.

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/...neral/michigan/

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/...eral/wisconsin/

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/...l/pennsylvania/

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Just look at those Trump leads!!!

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Are you basing that post solely off a single poll from the C- rated Trafalgar Group (which notoriously always overstates Republican results) that has Trump up by the unassailable margin of +1 in Michigan? (Yes, polling is slightly - but only slightly - more mixed in some other swing states, but I'd argue these are the only 3 truly 'crucial' ones because there's not really any feasible route to Trump winning without holding onto at least one of these 3)

I'm genuinely intrigued as to your reasons for supporting him. I got why he won in 2016 as much as I disagreed, but now...I mean even looking past everything else, he's not even healthy enough.
The electoral climate now is totally different to 4 years ago, what you can an echo chamber is objective consumption of fact, statistics and evidence. I understand those things arenโ€™t very popular anymore, but by almost any metric Biden is going to win as things stand. Of course that could change, but almost every pollster has implemented changes since 2016 and lest we forget most polls were fairly in the money in 2018 too.
I'm genuinely intrigued as to your reasons for supporting him. I got why he won in 2016 as much as I disagreed, but now...I mean even looking past everything else, he's not even healthy enough.

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He's far healthier than Biden who's had heart scares. Also he's losing his mind and Trumps fully all there.

Trump's threatened to "find a way" to fire the Governor of Florida if he doesn't win that state.

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Also lawyers for Phil Collins have stopped the Trump campaign from using In The Air Tonight at any more rallies after they used it at one. Ironic title given the airborne pandemic. :rolleyes:

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Also Trump says he may leave America if he loses. Where would he go?

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This place is such an echo chamber :lol:

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I'd dispute that.

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We've had a variety of opinions here, including discussing how Donald Trump could still theoretically win. I would say though that it is pretty clear that he won't win the popular vote.

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