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Honestly furious. He needs to f*** off.

 

 

Significantly he said he accepted both reports which means he’s now backtracked on the claim he made that Sturgeon had defo broken the code but that won’t be as widely or as prominently reported as the initial quote.

 

At this point I’m not sure id be surprised if it was confirmed he’d joined the Tory party

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Alex Salmond starting a new Scottish Independence Party ‘Alba’??
Alex Salmond starting a new Scottish Independence Party ‘Alba’??

 

I wonder how much the Scottish Tories are paying him :lol:

 

I don't think he is a Unionist and I suspect the party will fall flat on its arse. But in an election where SNP need a majority, this is surely going to do more harm than good if they field candidates in marginal/swing seats.

Ah so *this* was his ulterior motive behind his charade to the cameras at the committee.

 

 

As I’ve said all along, there was something going on and his ego was raging that Sturgeon is going to be the one to do it and he has to insert himself into the conversation again because of course he does. We would be better off as a country if he just crawled into his little hole and stayed there for the duration of the election.

 

 

This split in the SNP between the more Centre Right Salmond headed branch and the Centre Left Sturgeon branch was always coming but could he not have waited until we actually *win* Indy first

Ah so *this* was his ulterior motive behind his charade to the cameras at the committee.

As I’ve said all along, there was something going on and his ego was raging that Sturgeon is going to be the one to do it and he has to insert himself into the conversation again because of course he does. We would be better off as a country if he just crawled into his little hole and stayed there for the duration of the election.

This split in the SNP between the more Centre Right Salmond headed branch and the Centre Left Sturgeon branch was always coming but could he not have waited until we actually *win* Indy first

 

Seeing as he causes all this furore when Scotland is very close to independence, then I wouldn't be surprised if he is a Farage. Farage wanted a protracted, impossible to negotiate EU brexshit battle to make money. It's possible that Salmond actually just wants to use the Scottish indie cause now for money, and the only way to get that is if it fails and the movement has to keep going. Either that or he has a massive ego, possible narcissistic disorder where he HAS to be the one to deliver indie to Scotland, ooor he's gettin unionist moolah. Any of those wouldn't surprise me now.

He def being paid or caught by the balls by some establishmentarian group desperate to split the independence movement - has to be!

 

Isn’t Salmond meant to be from the left of the SNP?

It could be, but the Farage-style perma-movement, with Farage basically crying when Bojo pushed through Brexshit and demanding a new referendum lol, is also a possibility.
Isn’t Salmond meant to be from the left of the SNP?

No, not really. Any splits don't fit neatly on a left-right axis, although many dissenters have some form of socially conservative grievance.

He was part of the left wing 79 group following the loss of devolution in that year when the Labour government fell!

2 Alba MPs now with Neale Hanvey and Kenny MacAskill. I guess lots of people are having fun seeing the indy cause fight but I'm seeing remarkably little about what Alba stands for aside from 'we're like the SNP, but not the SNP', is that really going to make an impact on the Scottish elections when they're only on lists?

 

Feels like Change uk and the Brexit party melded

Neither of them are losses.

 

Alba is openly courting the SNP Terfs so in terms of cleaning up the party, things are actually going well. So far their pitch is „were transphobic and disagree that a section 30 order is the way to go“ but that’s ok because the Scottish Tories haven’t had an electoral platform for 5 years. All they can muster is „no more divisive referendums“ ironically the only truly divisive ref of the past decade was theirs....

 

 

Unlike CUK the AMS system actually gives them a chance to knock the LibDems into a humiliating 6th place (coming 6th in a 5 party system to a party that was founded 6 weeks before the election? I would die of embarrassment) mainly for two reasons. Salmond still has name recognition. The SNP weirdly seems to have leaked some votes to the Tories in the NE and as he is less openly pro-EU that Sturgeon is, he will pull some votes from there. The second is that unlike with CUK or Reform (who currently have a collection of loose skin sittin in Holyrood that I cannot wait to be free of come mid May) the media is practically falling over themselves to give them space and legitimise them. That will be enough for them to pick up votes. Question really is if they pick up enough votes to be helpful rather than hurtful. Too few votes and it’s SNP list seats they take instead of dirty Tory scum. So if the media really hypes them they will be f***ing themselves big time by reducing the number of Tories they inflict on us

the snp are actually happy that Kenny MacAskill has stepped down, he's also refusing to resign too.

 

I really hope Alba get 0 seats and i fully expect that to happen.

I’m still convinced Salmond has been given a Bung to split the independence movement - all this doesn’t happen by conincidence and the establishment will do anything to prevent another vote.

 

So what does Alba stand of other than independence?

Could Alba funnel enough support to open up seats to the likes of labour/conservatives? I hope not.
Could Alba funnel enough support to open up seats to the likes of labour/conservatives? I hope not.

 

From my understanding of the Scottish voting system, Alba are more likely to funnel support away from Labour/Tories/Greens due to the way the voting system works in Scotland. As the SNP are likely to hoover up a lot of the individual constituency votes in the election (which runs on the 1st past the post system), it makes it harder for the party to then pick up seats on the List system, which used the d'Hondt system, which first takes into account seats one in FPTP before starting its reallocation. Alba are only standing on the lists, which mean that they are less likely to split the vote in the part of the vote the SNP are likely to do incredibly well in, so voting for the SNP in the list system is somewhat of a waste, hence what Alba are intending to do by encouraging indie supporters to vote for them in the list to try to get more pro-Independence MSPs in Holyrood.

 

Also, having now educated myself on the Scottish electoral system, I must say it is a rather silly, nonsensical system, particularly its constituency/list split. I very much prefer the STV form of PR as per Stormont/the Dail.

We’re all actually quite happy with our AMS system thanks x

 

 

If they take Green seats then they hurt our cause and I don’t really see the point of replacing blue unionist Tories with blue nationalist Tories personally

AMS has its merits (although I prefer STV) but Alba's tactics highlight a significant flaw. It is, of course, the system we imposed on (West) Germany when we wrote their constitution.
Worst thing would be if Salmond's lot hold the balance of power for an Indy majority you know he'd just love that and his price to cooperate with Sturgeon would be astronomical to match his ego.

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