I just think it’s laughable how anyone can say that it was the EU that demanded the UK roll over and accept everything, when it was quite clearly the opposite. I see it all over Twitter every day, people’s hatred of the EU has left them completely blind to reality. Everything, even if it has nothing to do with the EU, is the EU’s fault... :lol:

 

I can't agree more. I don't think any of us in this thread thinks the EU was perfect as it certainly isn't. There are a lot of stupid rules, but there are also a lot of excellent ones. It was mutually beneficial. Nothing in the world if perfect. Brexit's happening and we get it, but some of the hardcores (I include Peacemob and Chris in this) have absolutely zero idea about the knock on effects. As always, Brexit will hit the poorest the hardest.

My folks have started stock piling. I am keeping a couple of packing boxes to make an emergency UPS shipment if they start to have issues getting anything at the start of next year.

 

Still working on convincing the folks to spend new year in Germany with me so that things aren't as bad. My sister too if she isn't on placement.

I can't agree more. I don't think any of us in this thread thinks the EU was perfect as it certainly isn't. There are a lot of stupid rules, but there are also a lot of excellent ones. It was mutually beneficial. Nothing in the world if perfect. Brexit's happening and we get it, but some of the hardcores (I include Peacemob and Chris in this) have absolutely zero idea about the knock on effects. As always, Brexit will hit the poorest the hardest.

 

Fortune favours the brave. And British people have a very long history of being brave and courageous.

British bulldog spirit 🇬🇧 💪🏻 >>>> logic

Fortune favours the brave. And British people have a very long history of being brave and courageous.

 

Yeah let’s purposefully make things worse for us than they needed to be because we’re British and brave and so much better than anyone else :rolleyes:

Yeah let’s purposefully make things worse for us than they needed to be because we’re British and brave and so much better than anyone else :rolleyes:

 

I never said I thought the British people are better than everyone else. But that doesn't take away what the UK has achieved and can achieve in the future. The UK is so much more than the EU project, the City of London alone could bring down the EU project if they really wanted to.

 

There are many, many great countries around the world that don't need this EU project, the UK can be a part of that world again. This is where the UK truly belongs, completely outside of the EU straitjacket.

 

I never said I thought the British people are better than everyone else. But that doesn't take away what the UK has achieved and can achieve in the future. The UK is so much more than the EU project, the City of London alone could bring down the EU project if they really wanted to.

 

There are many, many great countries around the world that don't need this EU project, the UK can be a part of that world again. This is where the UK truly belongs, completely outside of the EU straitjacket.

 

No you never said it outright but your words are dripping with it. What happened to all the supposed benefits of leaving the EU? Why is it now just reduced to something we can get through because we’re tough?

I never said I thought the British people are better than everyone else. But that doesn't take away what the UK has achieved and can achieve in the future. The UK is so much more than the EU project, the City of London alone could bring down the EU project if they really wanted to.

 

There are many, many great countries around the world that don't need this EU project, the UK can be a part of that world again. This is where the UK truly belongs, completely outside of the EU straitjacket.

 

But the difference is Russia, China, USA, Japan are all much heavily populated areas than the UK and have a large geographical space. Crucially they have the infastructure to produce the products. We're likely to see large parts of manufacturing in the UK outsourced to Europe in the event of no deal. Every other country in the world trades heavily with their closest geographical partner, so it's British logic to be brave and decide to ignore out largesttrade partner. Excellent thinking.

No you never said it outright but your words are dripping with it. What happened to all the supposed benefits of leaving the EU? Why is it now just reduced to something we can get through because we’re tough?

 

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up. Step away from the assumptions and read what I type on here, then you will understand where I am coming from. And yes, Brexit is an opportunity of a lifetime, that is why Leave voters fought so hard to make sure we were never gonna let this drop and make sure we get that clean Brexit from the EU.

I'm at the point where I'm actively hoping everything blows up in the faces of those of you still running eagerly for the cliff edge.

 

If you want it so much the consequences, good or bad, should fall principally on YOUR shoulders.

State aid is at the top of the list of most things the EU is worried about once the UK goes WTO.

If Britain wants to take a leaf out of post-war France's book and pump billions to invest directly in certain

Brexit-supporting, Conservative-donating

businesses (a continental, anti-conservative and free market concept!) to the point that European counterparts are no longer competitive in Britain, then that's fine. Dyson/these businesses will just not be able to trade with the rest of the world. That's what it's about.

Edited September 5, 20204 yr by Harve

I'm at the point where I'm actively hoping everything blows up in the faces of those of you still running eagerly for the cliff edge.

 

If you want it so much the consequences, good or bad, should fall principally on YOUR shoulders.

The delusion is so strong that when it happens they will still blame literally anyone other than themselves.

The delusion is so strong that when it happens they will still blame literally anyone other than themselves.

 

It is funny to see, especially as all these fantasial ideas being talked about now were not even a pipe dream in 2016, yet this is "what they voted for". I've no doubt when bumps in the road happen it will be the EU's fault and those pesky Brexit-sceptics.

My folks have started stock piling. I am keeping a couple of packing boxes to make an emergency UPS shipment if they start to have issues getting anything at the start of next year.

 

Still working on convincing the folks to spend new year in Germany with me so that things aren't as bad. My sister too if she isn't on placement.

 

 

We've still got loo rolls from buying a lot in March but may get more and a lot more tins etc. ScouTs Motto - BE PREPARED.

Think the quotes from the Sun are the arguments Chris follows!?

 

 

No not at all. I hardly ever read it. I read a wide range of media online.

We've still got loo rolls from buying a lot in March but may get more and a lot more tins etc. ScouTs Motto - BE PREPARED.

And the motto of anyone sensible - if you can do something to avoid disaster in the first place, do it.

I can't agree more. I don't think any of us in this thread thinks the EU was perfect as it certainly isn't. There are a lot of stupid rules, but there are also a lot of excellent ones. It was mutually beneficial. Nothing in the world if perfect. Brexit's happening and we get it, but some of the hardcores (I include Peacemob and Chris in this) have absolutely zero idea about the knock on effects. As always, Brexit will hit the poorest the hardest.

And yet so many of these people want to follow WTO rules - rules that are specifically designed to be terrible.

Illegal immigrants = Pesky EU (not the British governments fault for failing to apply laws they are capable of applying).

Financial Crisis = Pesky EU (not the banks).

Coronavirus = Pesky EU (not the potentially poor conditions in a Chinese food market).

Zombie apocalypse = Pesky EU (not the Umbrella Corp).

I'm expecting a LOT of bitterness and desperation from the EU people next week.

 

Good times.

unlike in your little delusion, the uk isn't as important as it (and people like you) like to think it is.

 

Had a longer version of this planned out but there's no point, id have better luck trying to talk a volcano out of its ongoing eruption.