September 13, 20204 yr Author Surely it is time for Johnson to sack the incompetent idiot who signed the treaty. Indeed. I loved the Private Eye cover this fortnight.... :D
September 13, 20204 yr Author Former AG Geoffrey Cox will be voting against the Internal Market Bill... :clap: @1305250002885804032 From his Times article: What ministers should not do, however provoked or frustrated they may feel, is to take or use powers permanently and unilaterally to rewrite portions of an agreement into which this country freely entered just a few months ago. Therefore, if the government does not urgently and effectively dispel the impression that it intends to do so, I shall have no choice but to withhold my support for this Bill. I am a strong supporter of this government and of Brexit and I am deeply saddened to have to say this. We, the British government and parliament, have given our word. Our honour, our credibility, our self-respect and our future influence in the world all rest upon us keeping that word. Nothing less is worthy of Britain.
September 14, 20204 yr @1304708778567270400 Then why the FUCK did our PM get Parliament to sign up to an International treaty which not only allowed such an outcome but specifically changed the previous version (Northern Ireland backstop) to this and claimed it was an 'oven ready deal' despite everyone pointing this exact thing out during the General Election? It's not as if Tezza hadn't completely rejected this in 2018 for this exact reason, and hence the backstop. I mean, honesty how thick are these people? Funny how concerned they are about breaking the 1801 Act of Union but trying to impose changes on Scots Law in clear and flagrant violation of the 1707 Act of Union is fair game. They’ll say literally anything to give themselves a supporting narrative so they can sleep at night. Surely horlicks and not being a giant c**t would be much easier
September 14, 20204 yr I see the Japan trade deal has stricter state aid rules for the UK than the EU ever had. SOVEREIGNTY. FT (via reddit): Britain’s International Trade Secretary Liz Truss: there have reportedly been concerns that she conceded too much ground in the deal with Japan September 13, 2020 5:27 pm by Alan Beattie in Brussels and Jim Pickard and Peter Foster in London The UK’s new trade deal with Japan commits it to tougher restrictions on state aid than the ones it is currently offering the EU in the Brexit talks, potentially undermining its negotiating position with Brussels. In the bilateral UK-Japan agreement announced in principle on Friday, London and Tokyo have agreed to replicate the restrictions on subsidies in the EU-Japan deal that went into effect last year. That agreement prohibits the governments from indefinitely guaranteeing the debts of struggling companies or providing an open-ended bailout without a clear restructuring plan in place. By contrast, the UK has repeatedly told the European Union that it must have total freedom over state aid after the end of the Brexit transition period with complete autonomy over future subsidy decisions, subject to WTO rules.
September 14, 20204 yr @1304708778567270400 Then why the FUCK did our PM get Parliament to sign up to an International treaty which not only allowed such an outcome but specifically changed the previous version (Northern Ireland backstop) to this and claimed it was an 'oven ready deal' despite everyone pointing this exact thing out during the General Election? It's not as if Tezza hadn't completely rejected this in 2018 for this exact reason, and hence the backstop. I mean, honesty how thick are these people? I love how they only look at it as a trade agreement in a simplistic way and not a very real threat of civil war and peace on a neighbouring island. It’s not like a 220 year old treaty didn’t cause much death and bloodshed like....and this whole brexit nonsense is a perfect example of why the 220 yo treaty didn’t work.
September 14, 20204 yr @1305541665525043207 I watched that debate by Johnson, Milliband and The SNP and Milliband was brilliant
September 14, 20204 yr Depressing but entirely expected result tonight. This country(as it exists for now at least) is completely f***ed. How can anybody outside of the EU see the UK as a valuable trading partner when it's so willing to break rules as it pleases?
September 14, 20204 yr More validation for me upping sticks and coming over to Iceland last year. I'll sit tight and have my EFTA/EEA passport again in another 5 years. The Brexiteers can suck it up and down this. Edited September 14, 20204 yr by mald487
September 14, 20204 yr From BBC News: A proposed law giving Boris Johnson's government the power to override parts of the Brexit agreement with the EU has passed its first hurdle in the Commons. MPs backed the Internal Market Bill by 340 votes to 263. Ministers say it contains vital safeguards to protect Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK, if negotiations on a future trade deal break down. But critics, including a number of Tory MPs, warned it risks damaging the UK by breaching international law. Although the government has a majority of 80 in the Commons, it is braced for rebellions in the coming weeks as the legislation receives detailed scrutiny. Several prominent Conservatives, including former Chancellor Sajid Javid, have said they could not support the final bill unless it is amended, with several expected to have abstained in Monday's vote.
September 14, 20204 yr Depressing but entirely expected result tonight. This country(as it exists for now at least) is completely f***ed. How can anybody outside of the EU see the UK as a valuable trading partner when it's so willing to break rules as it pleases? Boris is totally right to put the UK first before the EU though. Remember he wants the best outcome for US and not them and I for one am behind him all the way. I know from reading Twitter and newspaper comments that many many others are too. They're fed up and just want Brexit over and done with now and see Boris as strong and the leader to do it. Edited September 14, 20204 yr by Crazy Chris
September 14, 20204 yr Boris is totally right to put the UK first before the EU though. Remember he wants the best outcome for US and not them and I for one am behind him all the way. I know from reading Twitter and newspaper comments that many many others are too. They're fed up and just want Brexit over and done with now and see Boris as strong and the leader to do it. Chris, bless. You still aren't quite getting how this works are you? How do you think this looks to the rest of the world? Let me explain how it looks.. The UK is an unreliable nation that is willing to break the laws how it sees fit. They have no resources that we can't get from anywhere else anyway. They're belligerent....meh...screw them. Being "British" doesn't mean anything to anyone outside the UK....or England for that matter. Get down off your high horse. Edited September 14, 20204 yr by mald487
September 14, 20204 yr Chris, bless. You still aren't quite getting how this works are you? How do you think this looks to the rest of the world? Let me explain how it looks.. The UK is an unreliable nation that is willing to brake the laws how it sees fit. They have no resources that we can't get from anywhere else anyway. They're belligerent....meh...screw them. Being "British" doesn't mean anything to anyone outside the UK. Get down off your high horse. How about the exact opposite. "The UK is a strong country with a strong PM who won't be messed with and will stand up for his country no matter what" I don't think the EU thought Boris was this tough when he became PM. I bet they thought with his bumbling and jovial personality that he was an easy pushover compared to May. Well they thought wrong as he's quite willing to walk away with no deal. I think there'll be a last gasp trade deal though and apparently many Tory MP's believe that. Edited September 14, 20204 yr by Crazy Chris
September 14, 20204 yr How about the exact opposite. "The UK is a strong country with a strong PM who won't be messed with and will stand up for his country no matter what" How would we possibly be viewed as strong? We have nothing special to offer the world! Jesus wept Chris, you are in for a rude awakening coming January.
September 14, 20204 yr Get down off your high horse. I'm not on any high horse but I admire Boris for standing up to the EU and saying enough is enough. All Brits should do that. Thank God we have him as PM and not some pushover idiot. I for one, and I guess millions of others, will just be glad when Jan. 1st comes. Edited September 14, 20204 yr by Crazy Chris
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