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Germany and Italy not covering themselves in glory here by preventing the blocking of the SWIFT finance system to be blocked and with it a method to hit the Russians where it hurts.

Russia kicked out of ESC and Russian GP cancelled. Champions League final will be moved too.

 

Calls for them to be banned from the World Cup too.

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Cultural sanctions can be just as powerful, if not even moreso in changing the hearts and minds in Russia. We desperately need the Russian people and/or the people propping up Putin to rise against him.

 

I have a horrible feeling he won't stop at installing a puppet government in Ukraine.

Putins been building up cash in China for years, and moving to the East generally and away from the West.

 

Almost as if he's been planning it. Funny that. Funny Trump loves Russia and China, almost as if he were an asset as part of the original plan if he'd got that second term, with Trump trying to destabilise NATO and The EU with endless criticism and not co-operating while bigging up North Korea and his family putting shitloads of cash into China. Funny that.

 

And then the American voters went and spoilt it all by voting in a President that will support NATO and enforce sanctions.

 

No wonder Putin is hopping mad and frothing at the mouth. It could all have been a coup de grace with not so much aftermath.

The Ukrainian soldiers are fighting really hard, the Ukrainian people are truly special. They just need to keep resisting Putin's Nazi soldiers, kill as many of them as possible. The longer this goes on, the weaker Putin will look.

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Various European countries, including those such as Poland who have proved very reluctant to accept refugees in the past, are stating that they will welcome Ukrainian refugees. The UK isn't. Indeed, the UK has stopped issuing visas to Ukrainians. This is what we have become under Johnson, Mogg, Patel et al.

This far right regime is terrible and financed by Putin.

Various European countries, including those such as Poland who have proved very reluctant to accept refugees in the past, are stating that they will welcome Ukrainian refugees. The UK isn't. Indeed, the UK has stopped issuing visas to Ukrainians. This is what we have become under Johnson, Mogg, Patel et al.

 

That's a bad move from the British government, we've helped people from Hong Kong, we should do the same for Ukrainians.

Various European countries, including those such as Poland who have proved very reluctant to accept refugees in the past, are stating that they will welcome Ukrainian refugees. The UK isn't. Indeed, the UK has stopped issuing visas to Ukrainians. This is what we have become under Johnson, Mogg, Patel et al.

 

Mark Drakeford has said Wales will welcome refugees. Of course, as right wind English media would have you believe, he’ll have only said that to be different.

Almost as if he's been planning it. Funny that. Funny Trump loves Russia and China, almost as if he were an asset as part of the original plan if he'd got that second term, with Trump trying to destabilise NATO and The EU with endless criticism and not co-operating while bigging up North Korea and his family putting shitloads of cash into China. Funny that.

 

:unsure: He might like Russia and Putin, but he certainly doesn't like China!

The bit I am really struggling to get, is will Putin just take Kyiv (which he is looking to do tonight) or will he for the whole country? I see absolutely no way he can take the whole of Ukraine there will be way too much resistance. By all accounts it sounds as if the Russian ground troops are performing poorer than expected. The big worry here is Putin has completely lost it and he could go nuclear.

Im not so sure he’ll take Kyiv. Sounds like the Ukrainians are proving to be a much tougher fight than they expected

 

 

 

Germany is on standby for refugees too. The centres here have already been activated and put on alert

The bit I am really struggling to get, is will Putin just take Kyiv (which he is looking to do tonight) or will he for the whole country? I see absolutely no way he can take the whole of Ukraine there will be way too much resistance. By all accounts it sounds as if the Russian ground troops are performing poorer than expected. The big worry here is Putin has completely lost it and he could go nuclear.

 

Ukraine is right on Putin's doorstep. He can attack from three sides, and flood troops in from all directions along the Ukraine-Eussia/Belarus borders, opening up multiple fronts. He has air and sea superiority, and has troop numbers well in-excess of 1 million. He in no way needs to go nuclear. Ukraine can hold out, and I hope it does, BUT at some point it will fall. With how close Kyiv is to Belarus, it will fall sooner rather than later. With Western weaponry and an armed citizenry, the country COULD potentially hols for a time, the Russian army has penetrated deeply across multiple fronts, and Ukraine, like Poland, suffers from flat topography, and isn't sufficiently large enough or with enough rugged, sparse terrain to impede Russia with its geography either. Russia is already overrunning it; there are no trenches, no fortifications, no lines of defence, etc. Because of all of this, even though he is FUMING that his master plan of Trump and Brexshit and a far right British regime being completely at odds with the rest of Europe fell through, and seems to have become completely unhinged he will not go nuclear. There is, 1. Really no need, 2. Already massive malcontent amongst his population regarding this war, and 3. Nukes might bring in foreign forces, and might also end theflow of Chinese money and support.

Surely a nuclear strike would have devastating effects beyond the immediate area of impact? I'm aghast that such a thing would even be considered.

 

Especially given surely the goal here is to gain territory?

Surely a nuclear strike would have devastating effects beyond the immediate area of impact? I'm aghast that such a thing would even be considered.

 

Especially given surely the goal here is to gain territory?

 

 

Exactly! Nuking territory anywhere is a bad idea, ESPECIALLY when it is RIGHT NEXT DOOR. Radiation travels. Also, given that Putin has been screaming that Ukraine is an alienable part of Russia, that he has never accepted its independence, that Ukraine IS Russia, he obviously sees it as his territory already. So! Why would he nuke ehat he sees as his own territory, and in doing so set the people against him permanently? Basically, 4. Nuking somewhere so close to your mainland is just ridiculous. Radiation, for starters. 5. He sees Ukraine as part of Russia. He will not nuke what he sees as Russia.

There's absolutely no way in hell he'd nuke Ukraine, the bigger concern is that he nukes a western nation he perceives to be aiding the Ukranians.

Kazakhstan's rebuffing Russia, and they're supposed to be a close ally. I don't think this is going the way the Russians expected it to, now of course they have a lot of resources and can keep going, but Ukraine is putting up a great psychological defence and it seems, real defence too.

 

Zelensky is really rising to the occasion, constantly posting videos of him still in Kyiv, reassuring his people, denying offers to evacuate, I can imagine he's a huge target for the Russians but he's doing great as the face of the defense.

Kyiv held the night, again. The imperialists have found a lot more resistance than they expected. But a lot of the captured invaders appear to be young conscripts. Little worrying, what are they holding back and for whom

I think they are this desperate, as they are preparing for a potential WW3 and want a buffer state. They are holding back in preparation for that