I guess where I’m not getting it is that I don’t feel like I need an incentive to do the right thing. Even before lockdown was imposed, I stopped visiting my parents as my mum is vulnerable. It was a big sacrifice to make but I guess my incentive to make it and carry on working in a school with members of other people’s families was knowing that I was giving my mum the best chance of being able to see me more times in the future.

Yes, I agree. I just think an incentive is in favour of worker's rights. In my view, NOT having any kind of incentive for an entire sea change of responsibilities and expectations is dangerous precedent to set - particularly for the UK with the context of a looming Brexit.

 

As a test run of what the public will accept, it doesn't smell great for the power dynamic between employees, employers and the gov who should be arbiting.

The scenes last night up and down the country were ridiculous but no different to any other Saturday night I suppose. Drunks inebriated in gutters, people hardly able to stand up, buying pints and pouring them all over themselves. Some arrests and some pubs closed on police advice. Busy again today apparently and getting busier.

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I’d actually say I’ve existed pretty positively during lockdown. I’ve not been crying my eyes out over not being able to drink at the pub or behave irresponsibly. I initially used the time away from my workplace (whilst still working) to better my mental health. I’ve occupied myself with working, reading, catching up with TV and music. I’ve been in constant touch with family, friends and colleagues first through FaceTime and then socially distanced meetings in gardens. The only time I’ve gotten stressed and miserable is seeing people selfishly disregarding social distancing rules and not really caring about people dying. I’d say the pessimistic people in this thread are the ones who go out of their way to say they’ve got it worse than anyone else. That hasn’t been me.

 

I’m glad you had a great time, Alex P, but I hoped you stayed safe and stuck to the rules. It’s a little weird that you find the need to immediately come on here and attack me in a personal way yet again as soon as you’ve had a night out but you do you.

 

As for last night, I’m mainly seeing Soho as a place where the rules weren’t followed. I hope up and down England it was a different case and I’m sure people probably were sensible in a lot of places. Like Oliver said, hopefully being outside in Soho might help but I’d be devastated for my sister if London went back into lockdown.

On my estate, people clapped for the NHS every single Thursday for 10 weeks. Nothing right now.

 

 

Perhaps the mood of the nation has changed. I wonder why?

The scenes last night up and down the country were ridiculous but no different to any other Saturday night I suppose. Drunks inebriated in gutters, people hardly able to stand up, buying pints and pouring them all over themselves. Some arrests and some pubs closed on police advice. Busy again today apparently and getting busier.

I spent nearly the whole day/night in pubs yesterday in a town full of drinkers/the kind of people you'd expect to be getting up to this kind of thing, and honestly, I can say with quite a lot of confidence that the vast majority have been observant of the rules and acting safely. Quite sure that any spike in cases we do see will only be small.

No deaths recorded today in Wales for the first time since early March. I know it’s a Monday, but it’s still good to hear.

They tell us how many cases there have been in total in the UK but they won’t tell us how many cases there are at the moment (active cases)

Edited July 6, 20205 yr by Hadji

Melbourne back in to lockdown..

 

I think as a lot of us already knew, the coronavirus is going to highlight workplaces/communities living well below government regulations and people below the poverty line. Even more concerning is a lot of the outbreaks appear to be connected to migrant workers too which is only going to fuel racial tensions.

I am pleasantly surprised that pubs opening up again hasn't been the massive shitshow I expected. Are people actually being responsible? If so I am SHOOK.

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Well, this is kicking off today.

I am pleasantly surprised that pubs opening up again hasn't been the massive shitshow I expected. Are people actually being responsible? If so I am SHOOK.

 

I think the danger is not in the short term, it is in a few weeks time where people get a bit bored of the novelty and just want normality back. There are similar patterns of behavior across the rest of Western Europe. But on a positive note, it does look as if pubs, bars and restaurants have really rose to the challenge and are making the environments as safe as can possibly be.

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Well, this is kicking off today.

 

It's awful. I am OK with governments making mistakes (of which is clear they made many) - and which rightly they would get a roasting. But to blame the social sector is just plain wrong. Rightly he is getting pulled up on the remarks and I am sure Labour will pull him up too- but the problem is we have a temporary budget announcement tomorrow (and I'm sure some parts will get leaked tonight) to bury the news. More interestingly it will be good to see what members of his own Party think..

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What?

That sounds like a very.... UK thing to do

How in a civilized society are necessary tests for deadly viruses not considered part of the public good but rather a taxable item?

Tampon tax anyone?

This smacks of manipulation to me. Get HMRC to declare the tests a taxable benefit so that the Chancellor can make himself look good by declaring that it isn't.

The Brazilian president Bolsonaro has tested positive for corona.

 

When you do clownery

Oh Karma, what a wonderful thing you are.