Likewise. Seems like they can continue justifying whatever measures they put in place by new variants (one of which they clearly knew about long before they made it public information). Rinse & repeat.

 

And what happens if one of these variants turns out to be resistant to the vaccine. That's why I'm not banking on a vaccine to be the silver bullet.

That's my concern as well, that somehow this will interfere with the vaccine's effectiveness. They're saying it won't but really, I'm not feeling comfortable about it right now.

Yeah I know we should.be feeling positive about the vaccine but ...I'm just not. I had my hopes up earlier in the year that we would be in a good position come Christmas so I wont fall for that again.

 

I think they need to start decreasing numbers in shops at one time by about 25 to 50% less than what they are now, close schools and revert to online learning for 2 months or so and perhaps issue guidance for 3m social distancing? Plus larger fines for rule breaking.

 

I honestly feel helpless and the most depressed I have in a while. I know a lot of people are feeling the same way and people have it much worse but I just can't see an end in sight and I just feel helpless. I don't feel like myself or doing the things that make me happy or see the people I love who are a part of who I am as well. Ugh.

 

Yeah we might get a bit break in the summer once a lot of older people are vaccinated but I can see us back in lockdown next autumn because the virus will have mutated beyond the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Edited December 23, 20204 yr by Road Salt Mixer

Yeah we might get a bit break in the summer but I can see us back in lockdown next winter because the virus will have mutated beyond the effectiveness of the vaccine.

 

That's actually what I really fear might come to be on an annual basis. Relaxation of rules in Summer and then constant lockdowns over the Winter.

Anyone got a little droplet of hope they care to share?

 

If life does go on like this, I can't see a point in being alive tbh.

Anyone got a little droplet of hope they care to share?

 

If life does go on like this, I can't see a point in being alive tbh.

Jack :( This isn't much but I'm just thinking of all the things I wanna do when this is over, all the places I want to go. It's helped me a little.

This is never going to really be over is it?

 

Was watching a programme about the 1918 flu which killed millions yday and it seems when it mutates it makes it weaker in the longer terms so hope it’s the same with this!

 

I mean it just went away at the end of the second winter and basically became the normal flu

Edited December 23, 20204 yr by Christmasteve201

Anyone got a little droplet of hope they care to share?

 

If life does go on like this, I can't see a point in being alive tbh.

 

Treatments for those ill with the virus hopefully will become more effective and also the virus may mutate to become less deadly (this has apparently happened with other viruses).

Edited December 23, 20204 yr by Road Salt Mixer

That's my concern as well, that somehow this will interfere with the vaccine's effectiveness. They're saying it won't but really, I'm not feeling comfortable about it right now.

98.8% of the virus is still the same

What I will say is I was at a low in April/May time but then when things did open up a little bit in the Summer I appreciated them a lot more. It is unsustainable for the country to be in complete lockdown for too long. Of course planning things does become a massive headache and potentially costly...

 

I'm someone who for example always love to have an upcoming holiday in the calendar to look forward to and I did manage to go away last year. If that can happen in 2020 it can certainly happen next year.

 

 

Anyone got a little droplet of hope they care to share?

 

If life does go on like this, I can't see a point in being alive tbh.

 

Also I am guessing you are not over 50 so you are highly unlikely to die if you do get the virus, that's a droplet of hope? :)

Sorry that was really dramatic of me to say,I'm just having a down daym I'm definetly not suicidal. I shouldn't have said that.

 

I just have hit a block of frustration with it all. It's hard to keep being positive.

Sorry that was really dramatic of me to say,I'm just having a down daym I'm definetly not suicidal. I shouldn't have said that.

 

I just have hit a block of frustration with it all. It's hard to keep being positive.

 

I’ve felt the same over the last week. I’ve felt fairly positive up until last Saturday when Tier 4 was announced and Christmas was effectively cancelled.

 

It’s all bollocks and you can’t help but think with the c**t in charge it’s just going to get worse!

 

But I guess people are being vaccinated - so there is a positive. Also not going out is helping me

Save a bit which again is a positive at the moment.

 

I just feel frustrated and over the whole thing now tbh

If anyone wants a beacon of positivity, have a look at this

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Epxzu1AXYAE3uAy...amp;name=medium

 

I know it's shit and I'm also in a weird mood after losing my dad and just feeling a bit meh in general and even thinking, perhaps we have to make some human sacrafices. But that's also a horrible way to look at it and is also not the answer. Times are shit now but they will get better. It really is complete roll reversal since September/October with the south badly affected now.

 

Going to have to close schools in January surely, to do anything else would be absolute madness.

This has been the biggest wake up call ever in terms of taking things for granted. So something helping my mind out a little bit is trying my best to appreciate the more simple good things that I do have now. I haven't seen Bray since March but try to feel appreciative that we are still together nevertheless. Even just the fact we're both alive. The future is unpredictable - you could be living your day-to-day life one minute and then your world could be turned around the next. Often we have to get to that place to feel longing and regretful. So just taking the time to reflect on the good that IS still there, right now, can be a comfort. I agree that this feels bleak - deaths, the false promises, the anxiety inducing headlines that get leaked to the media, the shifting of tiers... but in the bad we do still have good and one day it will be over, no matter how hopeless it feels right now.

 

I do feel guilty even typing words of attempted reassurance when I'm lucky enough to be able to work from home and live with family. I truly recognise that and feel very grateful for both of those factors and whatever other privileges I may have. Social media hasn't been a great place for me this year with all of the division and competition on there. Everyone's feelings are valid and I'm sorry if you've lost a loved one, are exposed to dangers through work, if you're feeling lonely, missing something that makes you happy... etc. Rooney I'm so sorry, I honestly couldn't imagine being in your position right now. The strength you've shown is really quite incredible.

 

Sending love - we'll get out of this eventually.

As Jade said, I’m so sorry Rooney. Sending love ❤️

I’ve felt the same over the last week. I’ve felt fairly positive up until last Saturday when Tier 4 was announced and Christmas was effectively cancelled.

 

It’s all bollocks and you can’t help but think with the c**t in charge it’s just going to get worse!

 

No fan of Boris or the Tories but I don't think they can do much more at the moment in terms of controlling the coronavirus spread (apart from closing schools which would be a 'Tier 5'), I mean they have rightly said that Tier 4 restrictions are needed to control the virus in parts of England and implemented Tier 4 so its really up to the public as to whether they adhere to the restrictions or not.

It will be an awful few months ahead for sure, but we shouldn't forget that there IS a vaccine and as of yet, there is no proof that the new variant is more deadly or goes ahead of that. It's just unfortunately spread a lot due to people coming home for Christmas, they definitely need to either close or move schools to online only for most of January, it will get out of control then. But honestly the vaccination is going out, hopefully when we get out of flu season in the Spring, we will start to see it take effect. I certainly don't think next winter will be as bad as this, not that we can predict anything for certain right now so I guess I'll stop there.

 

(Really sorry about your dad, Rooney :'( My grandfather passed away last week too and I can definitely see how it's hard to stay positive)

In all honesty, although I was in support of the first lockdown I just do not care anymore. The virus is beyond controlling and leaving schools open throughout the autumn term has undeniably hugely affected the figures, the November lockdown was useless with schools still open.

 

In my mind there's one of two things that should be done- either don't let schools reopen in January and go back to full lockdown... or abandon lockdown completely and accept that the virus is here now because it is evident that the tier system shite is not effective and frankly more people are dying/ suffering from unemployment and mental health/ suicide than this goddamn virus. It might be a purely emotional response but I am so so done with this shit. The ONLY reason for continued lockdown in any way is to reduce the strain on the NHS, if it cannot be evidenced that it is doing that it should be reviewed. We can't stay like this forever and expecting the vaccine to magically fix everything is naive- I'm sure it will help immensely but it won't eradicate the virus, so maybe we should aim to ease back into some semblance of normality.

 

Of course if we were to lift lockdown we'd have to maintain sanitisation practice, masks, distancing etc but businesses are dying, people are suffering economically and emotionally. These half measures do nothing but make people angrier- there are people living across county borders who could literally walk from tier 4 into tier 2 as it stands with the arbitrary way this has been implemented. If we see any measurable effect on the figures from the tier 4 implementation I will be extremely surprised. It's laughable how badly this has been handled. I know people have said it's an impossible task and I agree it is not a position to be envied but it doesn't take away from the fact that many governments HAVE handled this much better and this government has u turned, made last minute decisions and effectively winged it through the entirety of this calender year, they're a shambles and because of them the UK is the laughing stock of the world.

The thing is, if you lift lockdown and sack off tiers then even a primary 1 kid is capable of counting the number of days before our overburdened and underfunded health service collapses into the gutter and is then sold for scraps to the yanks.

 

Lockdowns are painful but they keep our health system functioning and save countless lives both in terms of people not getting corona and in people who aren’t caught up in the collapse of the NHS like stroke victims or heart attack victims or folks who’ve been stabbed or in car accidents. Tens of thousands indirectly killed by the consequences of allowing COVID to run amok