lol

Not knowing the full context and seeing a “confirmed dead” post first thing gave me such high hopes, but I quickly realised it wasn't Trump, sadly.

Still though, I’ll take this garbage dump of a person. Although US will never learn their lessons so it will just be yet another spin about how democrats are afraid to hear the truth, they are violent and how everyone should get even more guns now. So not much will change.

11 hours ago, Calum said:

Karma.

RIP. Killing is never the answer.

I guess you really do find out if you fvck around. Live by the sword... or in this case the gun.

19 minutes ago, CRAZY CHRIS said:

RIP. Killing is never the answer.

I also don’t agree with political violence, but the irony is not lost on me with this one.

Again, I think it just shows how bent this ideology is. There is more uproar about an ultra conservative being killed the kids being shot at school.

As someone not opposed to the death penalty this doesn't bother me in tbe slightest. We are animals and this is what happens in nature. In a country as heavily armed with military grade weaponry as the US this was always going to happen at some point. The culture practically encourages it.

I’d never even heard of this guy, maybe because I’m not in tik tok. On the news it seems to be a lot of young people commenting.

Not sure I ageee with being happy at his death due to the precident it may set for political violence.

1 hour ago, Steve201 said:

I’d never even heard of this guy, maybe because I’m not in tik tok. On the news it seems to be a lot of young people commenting.

Not sure I ageee with being happy at his death due to the precident it may set for political violence.

Exactly. For me the participle is the more important issue. Do we allow or turn a blind eye to someone being shot because of their beliefs on either side of the political spectrum. If we are saying that we don't care because his views don't align with ours then we are also condoning by implication the reverse, others can shoot people we agree with if they don't agree. The irony of the gun quote is noted though.

It's all emblematic of the fact that increasingly the two sides of the culture war are no longer talking to each other and becoming more entrenched and we have lost the ability to agree to disagree or to play with ideas. The result is that we resort to other methods of dealing with those we don't agree with. As far as I'm aware this guy never advocated physical harm to any other party but I may be wrong.

Personally, I am not at all moved by his death. Nor do I take any joy from it.

Although he held many views I find deeply unpleasant, he had a particular gift as a public speaker and was also a skilled debater with no small amount of charisma. Even when I felt he'd lost the argument, it was clear that many others were convinced of his values and believed in what he was saying. For that reason I always considered him a very dangerous individual. I'm just not at all convinced that his death by an assassin's bullet won't make him even more dangerous as a martyr.

7 hours ago, Rooney said:

I also don’t agree with political violence, but the irony is not lost on me with this one.

Again, I think it just shows how bent this ideology is. There is more uproar about an ultra conservative being killed the kids being shot at school.

Don't be daft. There is plenty of anger and uproar at school shootings.

Look, he said some very controversial things and was anti trans and to some extent women too. Although many things he said were ironic such as women over 30 were virtually past it and should be married with kids by then. He married his wife when she was 32! Was against abortion but many people are. Good debater though and let others have their say without shouting them down.

Many people here had never heard of him.

He was considered by the FBI a target and Trump apparently offered him a full Secret Service detail but he flatly refused it.

Edited September 11Sep 11 by CRAZY CHRIS

2 hours ago, Gezza said:

Exactly. For me the participle is the more important issue. Do we allow or turn a blind eye to someone being shot because of their beliefs on either side of the political spectrum. If we are saying that we don't care because his views don't align with ours then we are also condoning by implication the reverse, others can shoot people we agree with if they don't agree. The irony of the gun quote is noted though.

It's all emblematic of the fact that increasingly the two sides of the culture war are no longer talking to each other and becoming more entrenched and we have lost the ability to agree to disagree or to play with ideas. The result is that we resort to other methods of dealing with those we don't agree with. As far as I'm aware this guy never advocated physical harm to any other party but I may be wrong.

His views being: black people were better off under slavery, gay people being stoned to death is justifiable, trans people should be removed from public life, palestinians are responsible for their own suffering. he may have fallen short of calling for public executions (that i am aware of) but to say that he played no part in his demise by espousing viewpoints that are definitionally “violent” is laughable. he was one of the top figures responsible for sowing the culture of political violence in this country, and the problem with political violence is… it isn’t just your side holding the gun.

and i think one of the biggest tragedies is actually what you mention as “agreeing to disagree” and “playing with ideas”. his ideas were ones that any sensible person disagreed with by 2008. he lent credibility to them by opening them up for debate, and now in 2025 the Overton window has fallen so far to the right it’s practically falling off the face of the earth. he was the embodiment of regression. an absolute cretin, and its only a shame there’s like 200 more like him with huge platforms still walking around

Edited September 11Sep 11 by dhwe

6 hours ago, Rooney said:

I also don’t agree with political violence, but the irony is not lost on me with this one.

Again, I think it just shows how bent this ideology is. There is more uproar about an ultra conservative being killed the kids being shot at school.

I feel like they almost hold their figureheads (Trump particularly) to a god like status, which again is an irony given religion is often is the basis of a lot of their arguments.

3 minutes ago, dhwe said:

His views being: black people were better off under slavery, gay people being stoned to death is justifiable, trans people should be removed from public life, palestinians are responsible for their own suffering. he may have fallen short of calling for public executions (that i am aware of) but to say that he played no part in his demise by espousing viewpoints that are definitionally “violent” is laughable. he was one of the top figures responsible for sowing the culture of political violence in this country.

and i think one of the biggest tragedies is actually what you mention as “agreeing to disagree” and “playing with ideas”. his ideas were ones that any sensible person disagreed with by 2008. he lent credibility to them by opening them up for debate, and now in 2025 the Overton window has fallen so far to the right it’s practically falling off the face of the earth. he was the embodiment of regression. an absolute cretin, and its only a shame there’s like 200 more like him with huge platforms still walking around

Perfection. 10/10 no notes.

This vile c**t died as a direct result of the rhetoric he spouted, spread and helped mainstream. That one of the worlds foremost gun violence advocates dies at the hands of a bullet is just a delicious slide of irony and schadenfreude.

He wanted me stoned to death, I will take great joy in the permanent deplatforming of someone who thinks I deserve to die because of who I love.

Don’t dish out what you can’t take

7 hours ago, Rooney said:

Again, I think it just shows how bent this ideology is. There is more uproar about an ultra conservative being killed the kids being shot at school.

it’s even more harrowing to think about this considering he was speaking at a school when this happened. What if the shooter missed and hit someone in the audience? I doubt it gather the same uproar from the MAGA crowd than their precious little podcaster they’re so desperately trying to turn into a martyr

There was a school shooting yesterday in Colorado. Not a single word from republicans about that

Personally I've found it saddening that people I know have been posting RIP messages today, as if a proper tragedy has happened. No mention from them ever about school shootings/children dying in Gaza. The closet Republicans/Conservatives I guess.....

The man stood for so many bad things and whilst gun violence should never be the answer, you cannot ignore the irony of him dying by something he fought so vigorously to protect.

31 minutes ago, Silas said:

This vile c**t died as a direct result of the rhetoric he spouted, spread and helped mainstream. That one of the worlds foremost gun violence advocates dies at the hands of a bullet is just a delicious slide of irony and schadenfreude.

He wanted me stoned to death, I will take great joy in the permanent deplatforming of someone who thinks I deserve to die because of who I love.

Don’t dish out what you can’t take

Have you forgotten that he was a human being with two very young children.?

Edited September 11Sep 11 by CRAZY CHRIS

3 minutes ago, CRAZY CHRIS said:

Have you forgotten that he was a human being with two very young children.?

He was a human being yes

His views also probably contributed to the deaths of many innocent people. Condolences to his children but let's not pretend he was good for society

1 minute ago, CRAZY CHRIS said:

Have you forgotten that he was a human being with two very young children.?

As were many people across the USA and in large numbers of foreign conflicts who his rhetoric showed no care for and in many cases such as the topic of gun violence, he actively advocated for the same policies that caused their deaths - if you need specific examples he promoted conspiracy theories about George Floyd and denied and obfuscated for Israel on numerous occasions as they kill Palestinians in Gaza. Floyd, the victims of gun violence and Palestinians are all human beings too, and this monster cared not one bit for any of them.

4 minutes ago, CRAZY CHRIS said:

Have you forgotten that he was a human being with two very young children.?

What does that fact that this misshapen thumb somehow managed to breed have to do with the price of milk?