I reckon its still doable if she doesn't rebound on streaming unfortunately

I hope Sabrina’s streams start increasing

Gah. Even if Sabrina saves us from this reign of terror, it would only be for one week and it'll be back again next week anyway.

If I remember rightly Ordinary was on 40k on Mondays update, I should imagine she is just below it or far lower, as we don't know what sales generate for Sundays.

It’s going to be very close I think, but Sabrina is slight favourite.

I'll be very surprised if it passes 100k for the week 😶 clutching at straws there

Yeah 100k ain't happening id be suprised if she does more than 60k as taste only did 68k on debut

Oh thats a huge lead

Well she did 50% more than ordinary on Spotify on Fri

Plus the video did double

Guess the rest are the vinyls already sent

Actually, its been a long time since a track entered the chart straight in at No.1, if the track stays there.

3 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

Spotify data is a day behind and she has got decent video streams too

Yeah I’m aware but the lead is way too big without big physical sales.

Ordinary is chart royalty and it would be a shame if such a throwaway song like manchild got in the way of history. I will be giving extra attention to the wedding version this week.

10 minutes ago, Liam Sota said:

Yeah I’m aware but the lead is way too big without big physical sales.

Ordinary is chart royalty and it would be a shame if such a throwaway song like manchild got in the way of history. I will be giving extra attention to the wedding version this week.

I dont think physicals are as big as your expecting, id happily be proven wrong though,

Thats opinions for ya if we all had same Tastes life would be boring personally Alex's is just as basic and ill be streaming my daily limits of sabrina 🤣🤣

Spends if Manchild falls to 250k per day after today or stays at 400~450k!

40 minutes ago, Steve201 said:

Spends if Manchild falls to 250k per day after today or stays at 400~450k!

I think that’s exactly it - if it can stay at today’s streams over the course of the week I think Manchild has it, if it continues to drop like The Giver did I think it will have to settle for No. 2.

1 hour ago, Mart!n said:

Actually, its been a long time since a track entered the chart straight in at No.1, if the track stays there.

Actually, it was Sabrina herself with Taste.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE* let Sabby C end this absolute reign of meh. I didn't mind Ordinary for a Tattooed Tom** song at first, now I'm on the verge of completely despising it. No way is he allowed to break Bryan's record, my childhood would be ruined.

It's not even from a film!

We really need a more aggressive form of ACR, there are tonnes of other airplay hits out there and it would be good to see more of them in the chart. I think after a certain number of weeks a song has proved its point and popularity, it certainly didn't count towards the chart when I was spinning my 12" of fecking Get Ready For This by 2 Unlimited 18 months after it came out.

However, as I appreciate streaming is the way people consume music these days, I'd say apply ACR after ten weeks regardless of what's happening, and cut the value by 75%. What is the point of tedious slow-as-a-tortoise charts? Hardly anyone is following them these days and most people that do just get frustrated with the stagnation. This will make it easier for locked-out acts to get in and therefore draw more attention to those songs and add to their popularity, whilst maybe even attracting people back to the chart again.

*Excuse the pun

**A name my friend made up for bland post-Sheeran angsty male solo acoustic guitar guys who are big for about a year only to be replaced with very similar individuals 12 months later

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Just watched the latest Jools Holland episode (Wolf Alice, Sugababes, Obongjayar, George Houston, Kae Tempest) - brilliant, so many good new songs.

And then you look at the charts and none of it is anywhere to be seen, it's just all ancient and/or by the same small handful of artists.

Depressing

If the charts worked like they used to, Wolf Alice would have had tonnes of Top 40 hits by now. I admit that there were incentives for getting indie bands in the charts in the past, like b-sides etc. But it seems mad that guitar bands apart from The 1975 and Bring Me The Horizon etc are nowhere to be seen, and even then they only usually get a week.

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Sleep Token just went top ten two months ago, albeit briefly.

Love the Tattooed Tom nickname lol that is so accurate.

10 hours ago, HiyaLuv! said:

However, as I appreciate streaming is the way people consume music these days, I'd say apply ACR after ten weeks regardless of what's happening, and cut the value by 75%. What is the point of tedious slow-as-a-tortoise charts? Hardly anyone is following them these days and most people that do just get frustrated with the stagnation. This will make it easier for locked-out acts to get in and therefore draw more attention to those songs and add to their popularity, whilst maybe even attracting people back to the chart again.

We’ve just had Sombr’s “Back To Friends” reaching the Top 10 in its 13th week so I don’t think that idea would work very well. People just consume music much more slowly now.

Also if you did get rid of all the past their peak hits in the chart unfortunately you wouldn’t necessarily have that many current songs waiting just behind them - you’d just be boosting more and more ancient songs instead. I guess it would be fun if “The Chain” became a Top 10 hit… but to get a high volume of current interesting music you’d really have to distort things to the point where the chart didn’t reflect reality.

The thing that ends up happening usually is that by over-policing the chart with exclusions (or effective exclusions), you don't really change the state of play for those 'new' songs that are advantaged, and you create a chart with greater magnitudes of difference between the top and the bottom. So what happens is that whatever is left over, just runs out of close competition and will just sit still for those 10 weeks before being forced off (I hope that makes sense but I could possibly try to draw a diagram to demonstrate it). Externally also, you can go so far as to create a chart that no longer feels like it reflects reality in a sense. Like how often do most people look at the trending chart on Spotify? It can be a little interesting in highlighting new budding hits, but deep down, I'm just too aware of the bigger picture that it doesn't feel like it resembles anything genuine. Aggressive exclusion will accomplish that same experience on the official chart.

The fact of the matter is that music consumption habits nowadays don't make for a satisfying parabola chart run, or at least not in a short period of time.

For another example, check out ARIA's New Music Singles Chart. It's a chart that excludes everything that's over 4 months old (usually, "Back To Friends" shouldn't be there), and this is the chart you tend to get. 1 or 2 proper debuts a week, mostly peaking very quickly, and everything else largely stuck in place because the gaps between the chart positions are so wide, the bottom of the chart looking interesting on paper but it's usually just debuts/re-entries being sucked in from #21 through the latest song aging out of it.