25 minutes ago, Mangø said:

Out of interest, who are you classing as the Britpop big 4? Oasis, Blur, Suede and... Pulp?

Yeah those are apparently the big 4!

3 hours ago, Mangø said:

Suedehead now you're getting the band mixed up with a Buzzjack member (and a Morrissey song)

I always wondered if @suedehead got the name from the band or the Morrissey song!!

 

2 hours ago, Tafty said:

Also, I will never understand how people get their backs up about other people not hearing about certain other artists or things in general before… so what if Username284773 hasn't heard of someone who was in their peak 30+years ago… like, why does it matter? If they’ve not come across them before, there’s probably a reason for that (i.e. their tastes align somewhere else and/or they’ve just not come across them - especially for the younger members)

Honestly, I’m not sure that I have heard a Suede song in my life. If I have, it’ll probably be one of those songs I’ve heard before but just never realised it was them etc… (it checks out too coz I am not a Brit-Pop/that era of “indie” fan at all (Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Morrissey et al))

Also, I think they need to be forgotten if they really are the ones to have “inspired” the brit-pop term or whatever!!!!!!!!

I don’t think anyone is ‘getting their backs up’ just shocked that someone hasn’t heard of them and continuing an interesting discussion. It doesn’t matter really to me just thought it was interesting and as you say highlights an interesting social generational gap on the site.

Not sure britpop should be forgotten in the same way pop stars like Britney shouldnt, they are all equally as important to music over the decades.

Perrie at #44... if Spotify data can be ignored enough for this to sneak in the top 40 come Friday

18 minutes ago, Steve201 said:

I don’t think anyone is ‘getting their backs up’ just shocked that someone hasn’t heard of them and continuing an interesting discussion. It doesn’t matter really to me just thought it was interesting and as you say highlights an interesting social generational gap on the site.

Not sure britpop should be forgotten in the same way pop stars like Britney shouldnt, they are all equally as important to music over the decades.

Is it really a social generational thing though, like if you asked a casual music fan, or someone who only listened to BMTH or other rock bands they wouldn't be able to tell you what a Alex Warren or a Teddy swims is , its more about different strokes for different folks, as I say if we all had same tastes charts would be even more stale and boring

5 hours ago, gasman449 said:

I find online discussion around music is very US-centric nowadays so if you weren't around during the 90s it's likely you wouldn't be familiar with Suede as most people just ignore them when talking about 90s popular music - out of the Britpop big 4 they were the last band I discovered.

Yes I agree. The US pretty much ignored them and even gave them the ‘London Suede’ moniker, due to a trademark dispute with an American singer who’d already had the name Suede over there. ‘Our’ Suede may be more famous now for having Richard Osman’s brother Mat playing bass for them! 😆.

Great band though especially their first 2 albums.

1 hour ago, 777666jason said:

Is it really a social generational thing though, like if you asked a casual music fan, or someone who only listened to BMTH or other rock bands they wouldn't be able to tell you what a Alex Warren or a Teddy swims is , its more about different strokes for different folks, as I say if we all had same tastes charts would be even more stale and boring

I guess that’s a fair arguement, although I’d imagine the fact that Suedes main success was in the 92-98 era there has been 30 years that have passed so a lot of younger people would have less chance of having heard of them.

Agreed on the final comment, guess there’s plenty who only listen to specific genres, I’m not one of them as I find different genres interesting and love loads of different type of music.

7 minutes ago, Steve201 said:

I guess that’s a fair arguement, although I’d imagine the fact that Suedes main success was in the 92-98 era there has been 30 years that have passed so a lot of younger people would have less chance of having heard of them.

As i said earlier i was born in 90s just 1990 still counts as a 90s baby 🤣 and I only learnt of huge acts from the time recent years ,such as eagle eyed cherry, the beautiful south to name a couple,

Heck my colleague from work been to see a band called porcupine tree a few times , no clue who they are but they had a few albums do well 😅

Reject elitism, embrace sharing knowledge, xkcd 1053

Those first two Suede albums are indeed very good and I'm sure both certain I wouldn't be the only one to say that, but also that I'm sure you'll find fanatics for deeper pulled parts of their discography here.

2 hours ago, Steve201 said:

I always wondered if @suedehead got the name from the band or the Morrissey song!!

 

Mostly the band, although the song title meant that the name sounded OK.

I haven't heard that much of Suede's actual hits but their last album was great. x

59 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

As i said earlier i was born in 90s just 1990 still counts as a 90s baby 🤣 and I only learnt of huge acts from the time recent years ,such as eagle eyed cherry, the beautiful south to name a couple,

Heck my colleague from work been to see a band called porcupine tree a few times , no clue who they are but they had a few albums do well 😅

This is where I find the bbc 4 replays of old TOTP episodes fascinating as you get to review a history of the charts each week and hear songs you knew but didn’t know. Also our very own BJ retro forum does the same thing in written form, I’d recommend going in there and read the threads brilliantly done by @Gezza

I love Suede but at the same time I don't think they were on the same league as Pulp, Oasis and Blur.

I think Suede were more favored and liked by music journalists and magazines like NME than by the GP

so not sure if they had such a big impact on your average listener and we're probably on par with Elastica, Supergrass, Charlatans, OCS etc

I also adore Suede, but I can totally see why someone wouldn't have heard of them. Let's face it, we're firmly into the territory where someone could have been alive for 20 years since they last had a proper hit.

As much as we may love them, they're not in the same league of notoriety as people like Jay-Z and Aretha Franklin - and Britpop itself is very much of its time, I doubt there are many people who weren't alive during that period who feel the need to explore it particularly

...if you don't know them and are vaguely interested in listening to them, these are probably their two most accessible hits:

3 hours ago, Brer said:

I haven't heard that much of Suede's actual hits but their last album was great. x

Listen to Dog Man Star.

16 minutes ago, Suedehead2 said:

Listen to Dog Man Star.

For me, Coming Up is their masterpiece album.

Just now, Mangø said:

For me, Coming Up is their masterpiece album.

That's great too (Brett-Butler would agree), but Dog Man Star remains my favourite. It's an album that demands to be heard in full, in the right order.