14 minutes ago, JosephStyles said:

Many of his songs had a boost from the tour beginning despite it not being in the UK yet

Yeah I remember you posting about it when the Tour started, cos I was curious about Dance No More and if that managed to get a boost (which it didn't seem to).

1 hour ago, Eric_Blob said:

Radio 1 does this too. I think they have to play at least 50% British music. But they have a microscopic effect on the charts these days so it doesn't help in that respect.

As for streaming, what I'm pretty sure is happening is, because we're so outnumbered by Americans, it interprets all the local UK artists as basically "flops" or unpopular, and therefore not prioritised in the algorithm.

For example, if you play Poker Face and it goes on autoplay, for a British user it SHOULD know to include songs like The Fear, Bad Boys, Fight For This Love, etc. But instead it plays Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato (yeah, they ARE popular here, and should come up on autoplay every now and then, but still...).

As far as the Spotify algorithm knows, it just sees "Knock You Down by Keri Hilson has 400 million streams, Fight For This Love has 100 million, so I'll add Knock You Down to the autoplay queue as it's massively more popular".

So yeah a lot of the British artists that didn't crack the US have been massively screwed over and it's had a snowball effect as because the algorithm doesn't play them it hurts their streams even more and then it doesn't want to autoplay new releases by the same artist (which the algorithm thinks is either niche or a flop) and it gets worse and worse.

I'm just astonished that record labels with non-Internationally-famous UK artists haven't tried to solve this issue years ago. They've probably missed out on a lot of money.

EXACTLY THIS! America's cultural dominance has eroded the popularity of some of our biggest names/hits in the streaming era. I think we're in too deep and no amount of playlist pushing/mandates can change this sadly.

45 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

So tours dont automatically mean huge streams

Thats the point I was making too - tours generally see an overall artist boost in streaming due to the artist being more visible, social media content etc., it’s unusual unless there is a big viral moment for one song to take off based on a tour.

45 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

Fair enough I only counted 3 songs on the last Spotify top 200 update considering he had tour dates of 29 and 30th 👍

I was talking about when the tour started - there was a significant uplift in his catalogue at the time on both Spotify and Apple, I posted about it here at the time as Electro said. Of course it's subsided a bit now but for artists with big followings, the start of a tour is very beneficial and a sign that bigger things will come when the tour hits the UK.

Tours can be helpful to current single choices too - Satellite was only as big as it was for Harry because of the tour happening at the same time I'd say (could be beneficial to Dance No More in a few weeks, hopefully anyway).

Ariana is down to #7 today with 302k streams

the music video is out tomorrow so shall see if that helps it stabilise

Most importantly

RMI back at 1

MIN back at 2

The cure still stable 🙌🙌

Suprised at that tumble for Ari - was still expecting it to be Top 5 at least.

RMI is down 80k compared to last week after the weather and BH effect.

IF it does remain at #1 this week I hope they pull out all the stops to keep it there - at this point they may as well try and match Wet Wet Wet as the joint longest running #1 by a British artist.

Rein me in almost 1 year old for mediocre joke song did little at first now buzzing me off kill 2026 new music

15 minutes ago, Dj Cheeky magpie said:

Rein me in almost 1 year old for mediocre joke song did little at first now buzzing me off kill 2026 new music

You keep saying the same thing over and over - what about songs from the 70s, 80s, 90s and beyond currently clogging up the charts?

RMI is 11 months old not 11 years - much older songs from Zara, Michael Jackson and others have stopped artists getting their first top 10s or new peaks, those songs are ‘killing off 2026’ music more so than one released in 2025 - and if new music can’t knock off an 11 month old release it probably has no right to be there in the first place.

1 hour ago, 777666jason said:

Most importantly

RMI back at 1

MIN back at 2

The cure still stable 🙌🙌

I hope The Cure doesn't get the I Love It, I Love it, I Love it treatment. Maybe with the big boost last week for Rein me In we will see a quicker descent into ACR?

Edited Sunday at 15:103 days by Paramore

People are also acting like RMI has been number all year it took 7/8 months to even get there in the first place

Edited Sunday at 15:073 days by 777666jason

Props to Rein Me In for managing to peak all those weeks later and still be #1! I’m rooting for Ariana but now expecting this to perhaps be another #2 peak from her.

Actually sick of this new anti new music climate we’re currently in. Some of these day 2 drops on Spotify counter today have been BRUTAL, only exception was that Silva Bumpa song which was really stable

Sam Fender has 0 monthly listeners on Spotify? #flop

Just now, DanielCarey said:

Sam Fender has 0 monthly listeners on Spotify? #flop

🤣🤣🤣

King of no listeners and still #1 - when will your faves

7 hours ago, Mr. C. Joel said:

I don't there's any Ariana fatigue? She's opened with similar numbers to other releases.

I'd be pretty shocked if this doesn't fall pretty rapidly down Spotify in the coming weeks.

Not shocked wouldn’t be surprised if it just keeps falling 😂

Day 2 with 300K, yeah, that's not good but so as the song. Just basic and nothing interesting, didn't listen to it since Friday not even once.

Don't mind RMI still number 2, at least it's a good song.

Funny how people loving Rein Me being number 1 but were slagging off Ordinary when that was number 1. I’m not a fan of either song but at least Ordinary was a brand new song when it reached number 1

I'll happily slag both off

12 minutes ago, Hadji said:

Funny how people loving Rein Me being number 1 but were slagging off Ordinary when that was number 1. I’m not a fan of either song but at least Ordinary was a brand new song when it reached number 1

It's just matter of taste? I prefer RMI by much, I loved the song since day 1 and was surprised that it took it 8 months to blow up but it's a good song.