All the new releases from this week having almost a 50% or more decrease on streams globally is tragic... The Sombr song was the one dropping less and lost still a 40% 🫠

This has been just below cutoff for a few days but it has finally made it in!!

It’s got nothing to do with the Chart Rules imo.

How or where are new artists meant to promote? Before they had TOTP, The Box, MYV, Saturday Morning TV, Afternoon & Evening chat shows, etc., - now they’ve got 10 seconds to make a TikTok in the hopes someone sees it or it goes viral.

It’s frustrating when streaming platforms don’t support new music however it’s not solely their job to push it - their aim is to have as many listener hours as possible.

It's really sad that streaming platforms don't seem to take more of an active effort in promoting new music. I know Spotify has a few new music playlists, but put them front and centre! If the current state of the chart were to continue, we'll end up with a depleting amount of popular current artists (it already feels that way now) as some will fall out of fashion, the perennial oldies will remain, and the music industry becomes even more difficult to crack. Of course, it's still flourishing in some regards, as major chart success isn't even a requirement to sell out arenas these days given how widely spread music consumption is, but there's more to be done at the top end I think.

Whilst Hot Hits UK isn't just a new music playlist, it's a pretty sorry state of affairs regardless - why is Homewrecker song #21 but My Body Isn't Ready isn't on there at all? 12 to 12 is there at #48 too!! The bottom section is particularly laughable - Think About Us, wgft, WAGWAN, Drag Path, Folded, and more that have long since passed. I know HHUK isn't as prominent a force as it used to be, but that doesn't mean Spotify shouldn't be putting some effort into it.

Happy for Phoebe if she can actually achieve a top 40 hit! (although I hope it doesn't summon the return of a certain demon...)

10 minutes ago, Jessie Where said:

Happy for Phoebe if she can actually achieve a top 40 hit! (although I hope it doesn't summon the return of a certain demon...)

Feeling I am missing a reference here x

For all the complaints about the OCC rules and what they do "wrong", it's actually Spotify that feels pretty broken.

So using the example of Rein Me In, it stays high on playlists because it's high in the Spotify charts so popular, but it's only there because it's so high on playlists.

How is it supposed to decline in plays if it's so prominent.

And then new songs don't get a look in.

Benson Boone should not be missing the Top 200.

Madonna & Sabrina Carpenter should not spend one day in the Top 200 (I'm aware it briefly returned)

Jade should not have been ignored after Angel OMD.

Yes, I am using my faves as examples, but they're the ones I have noticed most.

Just seems so... Obvious?

But then, who cares about the charts anymore (apart from us!)

Also... Aware I have said on another thread that the Top 10 looks okay this week, so I feel a bit contradictory... But the lack of new music is quite worrying.

Edited Sunday at 19:192 days by ChrisJK

The problem is the majority of people streaming aren't interested in new music, and there's no changing that!

Madonna & Sabrina had great Spotify support on week 1. It was on Today's Top Hits right away, the biggest playlist in the US/globally. People just didn't like it THAT much, it still did pretty well all things considered.

5 hours ago, 777666jason said:

Mani I need and Rein me In really are battling for that year end number 1 arnt they

With the former extending its lead for days on top

It's most likely MIN that will be the EOY #1.

God, it's all so BORING isn't it?

2 hours ago, ChrisJK said:

But then, who cares about the charts anymore (apart from us!)

And I think ultimately that’s what it is!

None of my friends would know or care what’s charting where, also I often hear people reference such and such song is #1 / Top 10 or whatever as they listen to the Big Top 40.

Buzzjack is exhausting at times but that’s due to the fact we’re chart fans, outside of a small group of chart followers nobody cares very much at all.

 

2 hours ago, Sour Candy said:

Madonna & Sabrina had great Spotify support on week 1. It was on Today's Top Hits right away, the biggest playlist in the US/globally. People just didn't like it THAT much, it still did pretty well all things considered.

This - there are songs that get great support, however you can’t force people to listen or return to something which they don’t like.

I know songs take pretty big drops on Day 2 but it's a real shame none of the new releases managed to stick! Hoping a couple are able to rebound as the week goes on.

3 hours ago, ChrisJK said:

For all the complaints about the OCC rules and what they do "wrong", it's actually Spotify that feels pretty broken.

So using the example of Rein Me In, it stays high on playlists because it's high in the Spotify charts so popular, but it's only there because it's so high on playlists.

How is it supposed to decline in plays if it's so prominent.

Why would or should Spotify want it to decline in plays though?

17 minutes ago, No Sleeep said:

Why would or should Spotify want it to decline in plays though?

I said it before but FAR too much blame gets put on streaming services.

Spotify and others ultimate aim is listener numbers/engagement etc., - if people are seeking out Olivia Dean, Sam Fender, Zara Larsson etc then they are right to give them playlist support.

It’s not streaming services problem to resolve - they are just the dominant players atm just like Woolworths were when they commanded 50% of physical singles market, and iTunes in the download era.

TV/Radio/Media opportunities for new and established acts feels close to nil so slapping a new artist on a playlist is not going to suddenly solve all the problems.

Also they have given HEAVY support to Ariana, Olivia Rodrigo, Madonna/Sabrina - it’s not their fault/problem if the support they have given doesn’t result in repeat plays etc.,

Spotify and others also monitor the reactions to the songs. If people click stop or go to next song when song X is played, they are obviously not keeping it on prominent places on the playlist.

The issue here is that Spotify is a business and so wouldn't in the slightest be interested in fresh charts and new music. All they would care about is revenue, subscribers and money. People have probably always been more interested in music from the past but we just didn't notice this as much in the download era because once someone downloaded a MJ greatest hits, there was no reason for them to keep purchasing it for example.

Streaming services need more subscribers. If that means keeping the classics in prominent positions, why would they stop placing it there.

People are more likely to keep pressing play on Spotify if they see an artist they know and love as opposed to a newbie they have never heard of.

It sucks though, because most of us on here do actively seek out new music and want it to do well but the critical mass... don't and streaming services are more concerned about the critical mass (unfortunately for us chart fans!).

17 hours ago, blackmascara said:

This has been just below cutoff for a few days but it has finally made it in!!

It’s rebounding thanks to usage in a Netflix rom com

Spotify has updated...

170 Robyn - Dancing On My Own

The Cure very close to being Rodrigo's highest song already! And sombr's new one back in at 65.

Edited Monday at 14:281 day by gasman449