I think it should ideally be something where lyrics are a big part of the song as I do think that the term singer/songwriter is used primarily for songs that have something to say or a story to tell. We’ll try to judge fairly in the veto process, but if a song doesn’t feel within the spirit of the theme then I’ll try to let people know ASAP

I’m out of the country for the next couple of weeks with (mostly) poor internet access. I’d love to join in but not if I can’t get a decent listen to the songs before I can vote. Have you any idea about time scales for voting deadlines to see if I can manage it?

If I had a street, this would be right up it.

Narrowing down the options that I have..

Looking forward to discovering new artists.

Confirmed now, much earlier than I was expecting to. I brushed up on seven albums to find an entry, and I could listen to many more but one song stuck out so even if I listened to more I probably would still want to send this song.

I had another main contender near the end of my search (funnily enough from the same year), was choosing between the two. I might enter it to BJSC sometime even though it probably wouldn't qualify lol. But stranger things have happened...

5 hours ago, Jaz13music said:

I’m out of the country for the next couple of weeks with (mostly) poor internet access. I’d love to join in but not if I can’t get a decent listen to the songs before I can vote. Have you any idea about time scales for voting deadlines to see if I can manage it?

Voting is usually open for 2 weeks, so you would have until at least 29 August to vote.

4 hours ago, Colm said:

If I had a street, this would be right up it.

Narrowing down the options that I have..

Looking forward to discovering new artists.

The way I read this as if they were song lyrics lol.

5 hours ago, Jaz13music said:

I’m out of the country for the next couple of weeks with (mostly) poor internet access. I’d love to join in but not if I can’t get a decent listen to the songs before I can vote. Have you any idea about time scales for voting deadlines to see if I can manage it?

I think the voting window is usually two weeks for the contest so songs should be announced next weekend with voting closing/results on the final weekend of the month

Oh drat apparently my ONLY eligible song for this was entered into BJSC 9 years ago (and it DNQ'd so probably the best I didn't submit)

Hmmm, to the drawing board it is then. Funny how I seem to have so many potentials that just keep swerving all the themes.

58 minutes ago, Dobbo said:

The way I read this as if they were song lyrics lol.

Everything I do is a work of art.

It's been this way since the very start.

Oooh yes to this theme - and surely it'd be hard for people to guess me?!

We looked at the first batch yesterday and if you were vetoed then you'll already have heard about it ☺️

A very interesting selection of artists so far, definitely a reasonable mix of unexpected entries among the more familiar names.

Here's a list of those who have entered so far...

Addy!

AH Gold

Chez Wombat

CowTzy

dandy*

DaTilt

dhwe

gooddelta

Herbs

Jaz13music

Jester

jimwatts

Julian

King Rollo

Lee_J11

matto

nine3/4

Popchartfreak

Severin

Spiceboy

vibe

WoW73

(22)

I've sent something and I totally expect that the artist is taken...let's see!!!

I sort of submitted a song but the artist was taken already (as I half expected they would be). Nevermind, I'll look for something else at some point x The song I kind of wanted to send would have been very well known compared to the typical Bror song contest entry anyway so maybe it's for the best, curious to hear the song that has been sent by them (assuming it's not one of their couple of even more well known songs lol).

I'm starting to realise that this theme isn't clear cut for everyone so, in case you're still pondering over what to send, here's some things that have cropped up so far with submissions where they haven't been quite what I was aiming at with the theme...

• Rap music - this is difficult as I can see that it is typically the same writer as performer - but I don't think it fits the singing part of the theme well enough. Perhaps it needs its own theme in future

• Songs where the artist isn't the primary writer of the track. There's been a couple where the singer has inputted melody or a part of the song, but others have written the majority

• A song that is the signature track of the chosen artist, but happens to have not been a hit in the UK. This is particularly where Spotify counts are high as that suggests a definite level of popularity and familiarity (very high spotify counts are likely to be a veto regardless of whether it's a signature tune or not). Obviously an act's most famous song is likely to be allowed if the act themselves is not as well known.

• Perhaps slightly controversially, songs where the lyrics are very short and also quite generic. Ie the same person may have created the track and it has some vocals, but the main focus of the track is more production or sound.

• Finally, tracks where the songwriter contributes to the singing but the most notable elements are sung by another person (obviously additional backing vocalists are fine though)

Edit... btw no shame to anyone who has submitted something along those lines, just trying to help clarify some things that have come up that I didn't pre-empt.

lol did someone try and send a CHAS like song?!

I would actually like to touch base on this matter: very high spotify counts are likely to be a veto regardless of whether it's a signature tune or not). Obviously an act's most famous song is likely to be allowed if the act themselves is not as well known.

What does high spotify counts these days where most of the 'hit' songs clear 1 billion easily nowadays?!

I am not arguing but just to know for future reference!!!

Edited Wednesday at 17:173 days by Addy!

To give you an idea, a song with 113 million streams was vetoed from this contest. I think anything else over 100 million would also be vetoed but that doesn't mean that one with 95 million would sail through.

"young singer-songwriter like a Gabriella Cilmi"

I might enter this

2 hours ago, Addy! said:

I would actually like to touch base on this matter: very high spotify counts are likely to be a veto regardless of whether it's a signature tune or not). Obviously an act's most famous song is likely to be allowed if the act themselves is not as well known.

What does high spotify counts these days where most of the 'hit' songs clear 1 billion easily nowadays?!

I am not arguing but just to know for future reference!!!

I’ve been thinking during this contest that we may need to update the rules for each contest individually. The way this contest is themed makes some themes much broader than others, and the context around what is popular in terms of numbers will change accordingly.

So for example a threshold for a pop or rock based contest would need to be very different to a britpop based one to an electronica one etc. I’m not convinced we can flatline it - but I do check the Spotify plays of each entry so it becomes obvious within the context of each contest whether there’s one or two songs that have a significant head start… but even that doesn’t automatically mean a veto, we try and factor in how high a song peaked, references to it on site etc as well.

Ultimately though this is everyone’s contest so if people would just prefer a straight cut off then we can try to agree one

10 hours ago, King Rollo said:

To give you an idea, a song with 113 million streams was vetoed from this contest.

really hoping it's a song by a pretty well-known artist who has another hits