Whatever anyone says I think UK singles chart is the most important and influential chart in the music world. Gaga would have loved to have another #1 here but unfortunately her comeback single which was probably the most anticipated single of the year is just not doing well at all here, it is not strong enough and sounds too dated. :cry:

 

*Laughs uncontrollably*

I know she is! But we are talking of the UK here and the UK is one of the countries that makes up the world and even her biggest fan would surely admit that, at this moment in time and judging her on how you like to describe her, she's underperforming. No? Yes? Question: did you expect her to be number 1 this week?

 

I was unsure of #1 because I was aware of the Brits, I thought #1 would be certain next week though. As far as underperforming goes... No. She isn't doing as well here as in the US, but she's still to promote here.

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Edited February 17, 201115 yr by bellboys

*Laughs uncontrollably*

:blink: I assume that means you don't agree. What are you doing in the UK chart forum then?

 

 

Whatever anyone says I think UK singles chart is the most important and influential chart in the music world. Gaga would have loved to have another #1 here but unfortunately her comeback single which was probably the most anticipated single of the year is just not doing well at all here, it is not strong enough and sounds too dated. :cry:

 

That can't be the problem though. Every single Lady Gaga has ever released in the UK sounds dated, and they did fine. Poker Face, Paparazzi, Bad Romance and Alejandro all sounded like they were from the 80's too.

 

But this "Lady Gaga has flopped" thing is pretty stupid tbh. Someone else was doing it in another thread to me about the Black Eyed Peas. Firstly, with both artists, even their fans are aware that it's VERY difficult to come close to the way they dominated the world in 2009. Even if they have half the success they had that year, they'd still be some of the most successful artists in the world. People don't expect artists to progressively sell more and more with each album. That's just stupid tbh, especially if your album is as massive as TFM.

I know she is! But we are talking of the UK here and the UK is one of the countries that makes up the world and even her biggest fan would surely admit that, at this moment in time and judging her on how you like to describe her, she's underperforming. No? Yes? Question: did you expect her to be number 1 this week?

 

 

The thing is we didn't expect Adele's track to take off like it did after the BRITs, it just came as a shock as everyone was expecting Lady Gaga to actually take the #1 this week. I think it boils down to timing.

:blink: I assume that means you don't agree. What are you doing in the UK chart forum then?

 

Of course I don't agree. I am in the UK chart forum because I am from Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.

 

I follow the charts, but it doesn't mean they are important or influential. The US is by far the most influential market in the world. We see, for example, Jessie J #1 here, but she's never going to be #1 in America. But plenty of American artists breeze to #1 in the UK.

You have to view these things in relative terms. The vast majority of artists in the world would kill to have GaGa's UK sales with the new single. But we aren't talking about the 'vast majority' we are talking about the world's biggest pop star, something GaGa fans are only too willing to proclaim. Well, with that form of proclaiming comes the harsh reality that she will be judged by that criteria - you create that hype and her new single doesn't live up to it and you have to take it on the chin. Relatively speaking, BTW hasn't performed well in the UK so far. Agreed?

Of course I don't agree. I am in the UK chart forum because I am from Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.

 

I follow the charts, but it doesn't mean they are important or influential. The US is by far the most influential market in the world. We see, for example, Jessie J #1 here, but she's never going to be #1 in America. But plenty of American artists breeze to #1 in the UK.

 

 

If you are saying (probably rightly) that the US singles market is the biggest in the World, where would you place the UK market in that list?

 

We see, for example, Jessie J #1 here, but she's never going to be #1 in America.

 

That doesn't mean anything. Same applies to Gaga and BTW then? #1 in the US but possibly not here?

 

Of course I don't agree. I am in the UK chart forum because I am from Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.

 

I follow the charts, but it doesn't mean they are important or influential. The US is by far the most influential market in the world. We see, for example, Jessie J #1 here, but she's never going to be #1 in America. But plenty of American artists breeze to #1 in the UK.

 

Yeah, well put. If you get to #1 in the US, you're pretty much guaranteed to sell considerably well worldwide (apart from Japan :lol:). The only US #1 that didn't from last year was Imma Be, but there's reasons that explain that situation.

 

The UK might be the most important to us, but the US is the most important to the artists tbh (especially the artists who reside in that country). In the US, Lady Gaga is #1 on iTunes, Adele was #21 last time I checked (with RITD), and Jessie J was somewhere low top 100 I think.

 

That doesn't mean anything. Same applies to Gaga and BTW then? #1 in the US but possibly not here?

 

He meant songs that go to #1 in the US can easily get #1 here, usually. Like Nothin' On You from last year. Got to #1 in the US, radio stations playlisted it, it's music video got played on MTV, and everybody bought it, and it got UK #1. B.o.B. and Bruno Mars just sat in the US, not having to do anything. Lady Gaga is in a similar situation, whilst Adele and Jessie J have to do LOADS of promo in the UK to get noticed, whilst Lady Gaga's promo in the US extends over to the UK, kind of.

Edited February 17, 201115 yr by Eric_Blob

You have to view these things in relative terms. The vast majority of artists in the world would kill to have GaGa's UK sales with the new single. But we aren't talking about the 'vast majority' we are talking about the world's biggest pop star, something GaGa fans are only too willing to proclaim. Well, with that form of proclaiming comes the harsh reality that she will be judged by that criteria - you create that hype and her new single doesn't live up to it and you have to take it on the chin. Relatively speaking, BTW hasn't performed well in the UK so far. Agreed?

 

+1

 

Of course I don't agree. I am in the UK chart forum because I am from Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.

 

I follow the charts, but it doesn't mean they are important or influential. The US is by far the most influential market in the world. We see, for example, Jessie J #1 here, but she's never going to be #1 in America. But plenty of American artists breeze to #1 in the UK.

I'm afraid little monster that i have to disagree! UK music market has a huge influence in the whole Europe! Furthermore, you never know if Price Tag may go to number 1 in US, as some other UK artists make it big in US (apart from Robbie :kink: )! US acts are more established of course because they come from US (is just like the movies), UK radio supports US acts but US radio is more difficult to playlist a UK act! That's how i see it!

That doesn't mean anything. Same applies to Gaga and BTW then? #1 in the US but possibly not here?

 

#1 in US, #1 in Spain, #1 in Finland, #1 in Canada, #1 in New Zealand and #3 here. The same does *not* apply. The British charts are *heavily* influenced by the US charts. Anyone will tell you that.

Hmmm, I do believe I called this whole 'calling it a flop because it's not living up to ridiculous expectations' attitude a week ago.

 

I'm surprised it didn't start to kick in earlier.

 

If anyone thinks Born This Way is 'underperforming' in the UK, this opinion is solely created because of the contrast to ridiculously optimistic expectations it was never going to live up to. End of story.

Edited February 17, 201115 yr by Bray

You have to view these things in relative terms. The vast majority of artists in the world would kill to have GaGa's UK sales with the new single. But we aren't talking about the 'vast majority' we are talking about the world's biggest pop star, something GaGa fans are only too willing to proclaim. Well, with that form of proclaiming comes the harsh reality that she will be judged by that criteria - you create that hype and her new single doesn't live up to it and you have to take it on the chin. Relatively speaking, BTW hasn't performed well in the UK so far. Agreed?

One simple question: If Born This Way was released Sunday and had a full week what do you believe would have happened?

Edited February 17, 201115 yr by edward88

I'm afraid little monster that i have to disagree! UK music market has a huge influence in the whole Europe! Furthermore, you never know if Price Tag may go to number 1 in US, as some other UK artists make it big in US (apart from Robbie :kink: )! US acts are more established of course because they come from US (is just like the movies), UK radio supports US acts but US radio is more difficult to playlist a UK act! That's how i see it!

 

Generally speaking, the UK and Europe is influenced by the US. I do not deny that the UK is influential, but it certainly isn't as influential as the US charts, which is the point I was making.

 

Jessie J won't go #1 in the US. She's not even in the top 100 on iTunes despite being in the top 40 on mainstream radio.

#1 in US, #1 in Spain, #1 in Finland, #1 in Canada, #1 in New Zealand and #3 here. The same does *not* apply. The British charts are *heavily* influenced by the US charts. Anyone will tell you that.

 

 

How many countries has the single been released in?

I'm sorry i do think it looks like a flop (in the UK) considering all the hype, radio airplay and all that 'sounds like Express Yourself ' thing going on in the news and all over the internet. Because she is the biggest star in the whole world, you do expect a #1 you know.

Generally speaking, the UK and Europe is influenced by the US. I do not deny that the UK is influential, but it certainly isn't as influential as the US charts, which is the point I was making.

 

Jessie J won't go #1 in the US. She's not even in the top 100 on iTunes despite being in the top 40 on mainstream radio.

 

Jessie J was in the top 100 in iTunes before though. Probably mainly B.o.B. fanbase sales I guess. Hopefully it'll climb again, as I want more English music on Billboard!! :D