The charts have always been made up, really. The most downloaded or even most bought song of the week isn't necessarily the most popular song of the week nor has it ever been

But then the Youtube Music premium will be 1:100. Reading about Youtube Music, it seems to be quite playlist based like Spotify, so it will largely depend what is on the top playlists there as to what does well...

 

Is there any way of seeing the Youtube Music premium chart?

 

All depends how many people actually sign up for the service. Seems quite late to the game compared to established services like Spotify and Apple Music. Time will tell I guess, but I am not expecting a massive impact early on from this.

 

Regarding its effect on dance music, I am hoping it will increase creativity in making striking visuals again. No one knew who Eric Prydz was before Call On Me, but the video established him. Same for Oliver Heldens Gecko which had a very memorable video, which I would say contributed a lot to it going to #1.

 

I am looking forward to seeing how much impact adding videos and changing the ratios for premium and free streams will make. Wondering if they are going to backdate the sales from this year for the end of year chart to incorporate the changes, or if they will keep the first 6 months as they are.

While it probably hasn't happened, I did think last night that the OCC must have added video streaing data to the current chart as 46 out of the top 75 singles have recorded a sales increase, something I've not seen since last Christmas. As it probably hasn't happened, I wonder what caused sales to increase so much this week? The fact that 18 out of the top 20 singles recorded a sales increase looks suspicious...

 

Also lower down the chart is a new entry by an artist who has impacted only YouTube known as geko

Clearly not only YouTube because Geko is officially #100 this week based off audio streaming (and the ten or so people who actually bought the song). He was top 200 on Spotify all week last week.

Regarding its effect on dance music, I am hoping it will increase creativity in making striking visuals again. No one knew who Eric Prydz was before Call On Me, but the video established him. Same for Oliver Heldens Gecko which had a very memorable video, which I would say contributed a lot to it going to #1.

 

Lasers and ravey dance videos yes, a return to Call On Me type videos no thanks :lol:

 

At least one dance song will likely do well from video streaming though, Jonas Blue and Joe Jonas' I See Love which is trending on youtube thanks to both it being a movie soundtrack and featuring a well known pop artist.

 

 

if the rate is 1:600, YT views won't add much, I see M5 did 2.7 million last week, which is like 4500 sales

most songs did around 1.5-1.7 million, Shotgun, 2002, Jess, which is not even 3k

 

 

The charts have always been made up, really. The most downloaded or even most bought song of the week isn't necessarily the most popular song of the week nor has it ever been

 

That doesn't mean they were made up though. They were pure sales charts - whichever sold the most was #1. You can't call that made up.

 

The charts have always been made up, really. The most downloaded or even most bought song of the week isn't necessarily the most popular song of the week nor has it ever been

 

They may not have reflected true popularity but they were in no way made up. They were based on actual measurable figures. The OCC jumped straight into steaming without thinking anything through and it’s killing off loyal chart followers. Yes, theres are still many people interested in the charts, but I know that lots of chart followers, who followed for decades, are just bored of it all now. They keep adding changes and barely anything is improving.

This new chart format change is amazing. Let's all make it even more amazing by refreshing this video a trillion times and getting it back to number one:

 

 

Let's show Mr Talbot what we think of his OCC. :lol:

You do realise only ten plays per person per day count to the chart to make spamming a song to number one impossible, right? :P

The new Singles chart rules are now online

 

http://www.officialcharts.com/media/654983...s-july-2018.pdf

 

One interesting change is to do with when a track on ACR can revert back to SCR

 

Resets

i) Automatic Reset – a track within the Top 100 on ACR and which is within 3 years of release can automatically return to SCR if it’s combined sales and stream total increases by 50 percentage points greater than the market change week on week. For example, a track with a week on week variance of +39%, in a week where market variance is -11%, would be automatically reset.

 

The inclusion of the 3 years rule should effectively kill off the chances of old Christmas tracks of dominating the upper reaches of the Singles chart.

The inclusion of the 3 years rule should effectively kill off the chances of old Christmas tracks of dominating the upper reaches of the Singles chart.

I might be misreading this, but I think this is just saying that newer tracks are put on SCR straight away rather than a week's delay, and older tracks are still subject to what they have been now.

 

Edit: Actually you may be right, as reading the article in full, it never suggests any other way for older tracks to be adjusted

Edited July 4, 20187 yr by Dircadirca

don't get it, does it mean that old tracks cannot go back to normal ratio? only < 3-year old tracks can?

What about more than 3 year old songs currently on SCR such as 3 Lions? Do they stay on SCR until they hit ACR or go straight back to ACR?

Ridiculous rules. Old songs suddenly becoming popular, ie Christmaa, is no reason to deny them their chart success. Mpre chart fakery. Top40 = made up and fake.

What about more than 3 year old songs currently on SCR such as 3 Lions? Do they stay on SCR until they hit ACR or go straight back to ACR?

I imagine Three Lions will remain on SCR until it hits ACR again, but then it can't ever go back to SCR.

 

This is clearly being done to stop Christmas tracks completely dominating the chart every December then. Knew something like this would happen but still, ugh. That won't just hold back the classics but the new ones that take a few years to really get going like 'Santa Tell Me'.

I imagine Three Lions will remain on SCR until it hits ACR again, but then it can't ever go back to SCR.

 

This is clearly being done to stop Christmas tracks completely dominating the chart every December then. Knew something like this would happen but still, ugh. That won't just hold back the classics but the new ones that take a few years to really get going like 'Santa Tell Me'.

Don't forget that it might take a few years for a Christmas song to accumulate ten weeks in the chart.

Don't forget that it might take a few years for a Christmas song to accumulate ten weeks in the chart.

Last year quite a few songs with less than 10 weeks top 100 were on ACR because presumably they'd already spent 10 or more weeks in the top 200 back when that was a thing, this mostly affected the really old songs that didn't chart on their original release but it also affected Sam Smith's cover of 'Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas'

 

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=208255

Last year quite a few songs with less than 10 weeks top 100 were on ACR because presumably they'd already spent 10 or more weeks in the top 200 back when that was a thing, this mostly affected the really old songs that didn't chart on their original release but it also affected Sam Smith's cover of 'Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas'

 

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=208255

But if, say, a song released this Christmas spent 1 week in the chart this year, 3 in the chart in 2019 and 4 in 2020 then it would still be on SCR in 2021, which would allow it to peak a number of years after it was released if that was its trajectory.

 

(at least I don't believe a song which has been released since ACR came into effect has been on ACR with less than 10 weeks in the chart?)

Bad call :/

Old songs were already screwed especially when someone died

and the songs reverted to normal ratio 1 week too late

Edited July 4, 20187 yr by Bjork