It's not too difficult to get into, loads of local newspapers offer jobs in it for a start.

 

Well we'll never know now, sadly. :( She was taking a year off to travel. I told her she'd had 3 years off already at uni. :D

Edited November 10, 20195 yr by Freddie Kruger

Yes I do. So what in your mind is a so-called Mickey Mouse degree then?

 

I thought my daughter took the wrong degree and told her so. Where would English Lit and Journalism have got her? She got a 2:1 but had no job 7 months later but some of her friends had them. It's all about Accounting or the Sciences these days.

No degree is a "Mickey Mouse degree" - if somebody is out there at university actually learning, putting that into practice and getting what they want out of it, then they're doing a great deal better than anybody who sits at a computer all day feeding on Conservative propaganda, fake news and scotch eggs.

No degree is a "Mickey Mouse degree" - if somebody is out there at university actually learning, putting that into practice and getting what they want out of it, then they're doing a great deal better than anybody who sits at a computer all day feeding on Conservative propaganda, fake news and scotch eggs.

 

 

Yes I agree with all that. Scotch eggs aren't healthy at all. :D

Yes I do. So what in your mind is a so-called Mickey Mouse degree then?

 

I thought my daughter took the wrong degree and told her so. Where would English Lit and Journalism have got her? She got a 2:1 but had no job 7 months later but some of her friends had them. It's all about Accounting or the Sciences these days.

 

You're right, I really can't think of any job where reading and writing skills would be important, who even needs skills like that?

 

Was wondering how long it would take before 'Mickey Mouse degree' was mentioned *.* Classic.

Imagine having all the time in the world to educate yourself and offer something to the world and instead spending the majority of your time online insulting people who have worked their arses off to gain skills to then go out into the world and do some good work while also paying their taxes to fund the services that others in society make use of. Imagine being so spiteful to jump straight to that without even using the resource at your fingertips to do some basic fact checking before jumping straight to the conclusion that all students must just be lazy, stupid drunks.

Imagine having all the time in the world to educate yourself and offer something to the world and instead spending the majority of your time online insulting people who have worked their arses off to gain skills to then go out into the world and do some good work while also paying their taxes to fund the services that others in society make use of. Imagine being so spiteful to jump straight to that without even using the resource at your fingertips to do some basic fact checking before jumping straight to the conclusion that all students must just be lazy, stupid drunks.

 

I know right? It sounds like someone we know. :lol:

 

 

 

Gave her a few verbal life lessons :D

 

What life lessons could you possibly give someone? How to live off of other peoples hard earned money for 40 years and drown yourself in cider?

 

Your hardly an aspirational figure by any stretch of the imagination. Whatever comes out of your mouth should be taken with a pinch of salt at best.

 

I have no time for house-work and dog-walking. Is there a degree in chart hits of the 70's?

 

I would be surprised, given the variety of bizarre degree courses out there... :lol:

 

 

Theres f***ing thousands of nominations for title of your stupidest post but this one absolutely landslides it

 

We can afford it to be free. Most places in Europe cope just fine. Scotland copes just fine.

 

Err... you do realize that nothing is 'free' - it all has to be paid by taxpayers. :rolleyes: Also, since that burden would inevitably fall mostly on those who've long since finished their education, and often didn't have equivalent opportunities when they were young, it's hardly surprising they'd resent the idea of paying for something they'd get no benefit from!

Edited November 11, 20195 yr by vidcapper

I would be surprised, given the variety of bizarre degree courses out there... :lol:

Err... you do realize that nothing is 'free' - it all has to be paid by taxpayers. :rolleyes: Also, since that burden would inevitably fall mostly on those who've long since finished their education, and often didn't have equivalent opportunities when they were young, it's hardly surprising they'd resent the idea of paying for something they'd get no benefit from!

 

 

Spot on Vid. As soon as I'd got in to bed last night I thought well it wouldn't be free like they're all saying but funded by the taxpayers!

What life lessons could you possibly give someone?

Your hardly an aspirational figure by any stretch of the imagination. Whatever comes out of your mouth should be taken with a pinch of salt at best.

 

 

I told her not to moan about having to start to pay her student loan back straight away but be glad she's got a good job straight after Uni on a high enough income to be starting paying it back.

Err... you do realize that nothing is 'free' - it all has to be paid by taxpayers. :rolleyes: Also, since that burden would inevitably fall mostly on those who've long since finished their education, and often didn't have equivalent opportunities when they were young, it's hardly surprising they'd resent the idea of paying for something they'd get no benefit from!

No shit Sherlock. I put my “free at the point of use” degree in Accounting & Finance to good use and work in Tax for a Big4 firm. I have a fairly good grasp of how taxation works thanks.

 

 

Many who have long since finished had far better opportunities with bursaries and no tuition fees and no stealth graduate taxes either. Bitching and moaning about being asked not to pull the ladder up behind them is absolutely peak boomer.

 

“Free at the Point of use” education is important for social mobility. Year on year more and more people from the most deprived areas in Scotland have the opportunity to go to university. Our services based economy needs well educated graduates to keep growing and given that statistically a graduate earns more over their working life the investment is paid back to the public purse through increased tax take in the long run

 

It’s a similar concept to funding childcare. It’s expensive but it allows the parent (often the mother) to return to work when they otherwise would be unable to. The cash comes back through increased participation in the Labour market and thus taxation.

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Edited November 11, 20195 yr by Freddie Kruger

I would be surprised, given the variety of bizarre degree courses out there... :lol:

Err... you do realize that nothing is 'free' - it all has to be paid by taxpayers. :rolleyes: Also, since that burden would inevitably fall mostly on those who've long since finished their education, and often didn't have equivalent opportunities when they were young, it's hardly surprising they'd resent the idea of paying for something they'd get no benefit from!

 

You still could benefit from it though, it’s never too late to learn. You and Chris seem to be pretty grumpy over the fact you didn’t go and quite jealous of people that have made use of the opportunity.

 

As it is, people your age were able to go to university without landing in thousands and thousand of pounds worth of debt.

I would be surprised, given the variety of bizarre degree courses out there... :lol:

Err... you do realize that nothing is 'free' - it all has to be paid by taxpayers. :rolleyes: Also, since that burden would inevitably fall mostly on those who've long since finished their education, and often didn't have equivalent opportunities when they were young, it's hardly surprising they'd resent the idea of paying for something they'd get no benefit from!

 

They would indirectly and directly benefit though. Making university education free will likely increase the amount of people that go into vital roles such as teachers, nurses, doctors etc. The NHS has a massive need of new nurses and doctors. Nurses in particular- the government cut the nursing bursary and the amount of people applying/training to be a nurse fell dramatically in the years to follow. There's also the sciences, in which those studying science subjects could go on to creating new treatments for various diseases, both human and animal. I believe there's also a shortage of vets in the UK - so those who have pets would benefit as it's likely more people would take up a veterinary degree. There are likely a lot of other examples I could give, but I'll leave it at that for now.

 

It would be beneficial for the future to have a highly educated work force as well, as automation and digitalisation become ever more prevalent.

My niece's best friend's dad is a lecturer in popular music. A degree in pop music? :rolleyes: Must be the most Mickey Mouse degree ever. Waste of funding and three years.

Can I just say because I only just saw this.

 

f*** you.

Oh in case it wasn't clear, I took Popular Music.

 

You wouldn't have lasted 2 seconds on the my degree, we wrote academic essays like any honours course (including a dissertation), learned how to better write, perform, record, produce, and market- not to mention the contacts we made while there. The music industry is huge, worth BILLIONS to the economy. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I've recently graduated, had several interviews in my industry so the opportunities are there, I specialised in technology and marketing. For some reason if you take "Music" it's fine but the moment you specialise in anything relating to the modern industry (pop, technology, production) it's a complete waste of time to Daily Mail reading neanderthals.

 

If you'd like me to forward you any material please let me know because I'm dying to get your thoughts on my former reading material. :rolleyes:

 

The absolute f***ing irony from a self professed charts/ music fan. It's doublethink, cognitive dissonance. On the one hand the industry has value to you and you clearly enjoy its output but on the other you think learning about it with the intention of working in it is an abject waste of time and money.

 

I'm sure you'll say "well you don't need a degree to work in the music industry", quite, but it's INCREDIBLY difficult to access it otherwise. If you do have one you're going to understand the industry 100x better, be far less likely to be taken advantage of (we dissected legal contracts for example), develop critical thinking skills among many other attributes that I simply don't have time to list. It will also put you far ahead of competitors on paper, you need a degree these days to be taken seriously in most areas of work.

 

It's unbelievable by the way, it feels like you just observe life, you don't DO anything. You don't participate or contribute to society in any way yet you cast judgement down on anyone trying to make something of themselves if they don't quite happen to fit your narrow 1970s world view, you just come across bitter.

 

Have some god damn humility, your opinion isn't inherently worth anything if it's backed up by nothing but your gut feeling. There's no evidence, nothing credible, just knee jerk reactions. You see the world as a binary, you've even said in this thread "This isn't North Korea, everyone else has the same opinions but me. I'm allowed to have my own opinions." as if you're the brave defender of 'your side' and everyone else is just part of the brainwashed authoritarian masses of 'the other side'.

Not everyone else is on the same page by the way, there CAN be more than two perspectives on every topic but that aside let's just be clear, you're barely putting forward opinions, just vague thoughts and parroted segments from things you've seen and heard. Lots of people do agree with you, you're not unique in being ignorant in any given topic. "A little learning is a dangerous thing." (Pope, 1711)

 

It's okay by the way to admit you don't have a lot of knowledge about something but pretending you do isn't impressive. That is why people are so strongly disagreeing with you, you don't put forward a serious argument, just usually a sarcastic comment or a half baked statement that can't be backed up.

I thought my daughter took the wrong degree and told her so. Where would English Lit and Journalism have got her? She got a 2:1 but had no job 7 months later but some of her friends had them. It's all about Accounting or the Sciences these days.

Took someone I know a year to get his first job after his Physics degree. Ended up being in a more Maths/ Coding based sector anyway.

 

Like I said early in this thread, transferable skills. If even English is a waste of time to you I really don't know if there's any hope for you.

Oh in case it wasn't clear, I took Popular Music.

 

You wouldn't have lasted 2 seconds on the my degree, we wrote academic essays like any honours course (including a dissertation), learned how to better write, perform, record, produce, and market- not to mention the contacts we made while there. The music industry is huge, worth BILLIONS to the economy. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I've recently graduated, had several interviews in my industry so the opportunities are there, I specialised in technology and marketing. For some reason if you take "Music" it's fine but the moment you specialise in anything relating to the modern industry (pop, technology, production) it's a complete waste of time to Daily Mail reading neanderthals.

 

If you'd like me to forward you any material please let me know because I'm dying to get your thoughts on my former reading material. :rolleyes:

 

The absolute f***ing irony from a self professed charts/ music fan. It's doublethink, cognitive dissonance. On the one hand the industry has value to you and you clearly enjoy its output but on the other you think learning about it with the intention of working in it is an abject waste of time and money.

 

I'm sure you'll say "well you don't need a degree to work in the music industry", quite, but it's INCREDIBLY difficult to access it otherwise. If you do have one you're going to understand the industry 100x better, be far less likely to be taken advantage of (we dissected legal contracts for example), develop critical thinking skills among many other attributes that I simply don't have time to list. It will also put you far ahead of competitors on paper, you need a degree these days to be taken seriously in most areas of work.

 

It's unbelievable by the way, it feels like you just observe life, you don't DO anything. You don't participate or contribute to society in any way yet you cast judgement down on anyone trying to make something of themselves if they don't quite happen to fit your narrow 1970s world view, you just come across bitter.

 

Have some god damn humility, your opinion isn't inherently worth anything if it's backed up by nothing but your gut feeling. There's no evidence, nothing credible, just knee jerk reactions. You see the world as a binary, you've even said in this thread "This isn't North Korea, everyone else has the same opinions but me. I'm allowed to have my own opinions." as if you're the brave defender of 'your side' and everyone else is just part of the brainwashed authoritarian masses of 'the other side'.

Not everyone else is on the same page by the way, there CAN be more than two perspectives on every topic but that aside let's just be clear, you're barely putting forward opinions, just vague thoughts and parroted segments from things you've seen and heard. Lots of people do agree with you, you're not unique in being ignorant in any given topic. "A little learning is a dangerous thing." (Pope, 1711)

 

It's okay by the way to admit you don't have a lot of knowledge about something but pretending you do isn't impressive. That is why people are so strongly disagreeing with you, you don't put forward a serious argument, just usually a sarcastic comment or a half baked statement that can't be backed up.

Took someone I know a year to get his first job after his Physics degree. Ended up being in a more Maths/ Coding based sector anyway.

 

Like I said early in this thread, transferable skills. If even English is a waste of time to you I really don't know if there's any hope for you.

 

:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

 

Can I just say because I only just saw this.

 

f*** you.

 

 

LOL. Only just seen this. :D

 

I don't think English is a waste of time really. Sadly we'll never know what job my late daughter would get. :(

 

I did upset my cousin once as she's an English teacher and I said I thought Shakespeare is very overrated. Well I do and can have my opinion.

 

 

Yes you hit the nail on the head. I am very bitter that I've had this depression all my adult life and had to scrape by on benefits and not realise my full potential. :(

Edited November 28, 20195 yr by common sense

Like I said early in this thread, transferable skills. If even English is a waste of time to you I really don't know if there's any hope for you.

 

 

Well I'm almost 60 so doubt I'll ever work again.