Agreed there. Plus the UK already has a reliance on food banks and wage stagnation. There won't be any rationing, it's not WW2. There will be shortages in the supply chain, that is a given if there is no deal. But it will be simialr to the early days of covid-19 only for items which are perishable so they are also harder to store unless you've 6 freezers in your house.

 

d the right experitse and talent and we don't always have that in the UK, which is why it was so easy to attract people from the EU to fill these talent gaps. Plus moving to another country comes with cultural changes too which not everyone can aclimatise to.

 

 

So you mean fruit and veg really and foreign cheeses, meats etc. So we needn't really bother hoarding tins? Let's hope the shortages don't last long then and there aren't the port queues that the pessimists claim we'll have.

Young, educated people won't be leaving the UK in their droves.

They should though. Language skills of its citizens aside, if any country's ripe for a brain drain then it's Britain.

I'm simply observing what happens in every other country where a similar cataclysmic event comes that destroys social mobility.

 

People with skills that are not being used to their best here, or who are not getting a fair reward and progression relative to their level of skill, WILL seek better as soon as they're aware of the ability to.

 

We'll see if it happens, but I'll say be wary of a 'it couldn't/won't happen here' mentality - look where that took the UK's covid-19 response.

 

Or look at many other countries in the world that until recently were stable and modern, civilised places. It doesn't take much to nudge the train off the tracks.

So you mean fruit and veg really and foreign cheeses, meats etc. So we needn't really bother hoarding tins? Let's hope the shortages don't last long then and there aren't the port queues that the pessimists claim we'll have.

 

It could be any products, from big brands to fresh produce. Isn't there a wheat shortage anyway at this moment in time? As I've said time and time again, all the major players in the market (Tesco, Asda, Aldi.. then your brands Unilever, Nestle, Heinz-Kraft, Mars etc.) have been preparing tor Brexit for 4+ years. They have masses amount of warehouse space and estimated in the event of any likely supply chain shortage, they would have 3-4 months worth of stock in reserve. But Covid has depleted this and most of the major players just don't have the capacity to guarantee there won't be supply shortages of certain products. You could see Mars bars only available in Tesco for example for a period of weeks.

I see the 'No deal is better than a bad deal' mantra is back..

 

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It's just so funny to me that this government is trying to get access the the EU market, yet refuses to accept the rules in said market. How is that in any way an achieveable demand? But bad EU for mot letting them have what they want

 

I'm not quite sure what the demanda are regarding the fishing grounds, so if someone could expand on that

Let the games begin.

Lovely and not at all psycho to think this is all just a game and won't affect lives.

 

Because I believe in democracy. If I didn't, the UK would be in the same situation that Belarus find their country in today.

What a weird comparison of 2 countries that have ZERO things in common. Belarus never even had true democracy to begin with :lol: :lol: :lol: The direction where Britain is going is, however, very reminiscent of Russia's 'let's create a hate campaign for a specific group of people/organisation/etc. and blame everything on them instead if when something goes wrong'. A hate-driven propaganda hype train designed to split the population so that people fought against each other instead of communicating and making the governments truly accountable for what they are doing.

 

 

Lovely how I read through like 56 pages of Peacemob's posts and the only 'arguments' provided were "the British are brave and tough" and "i like democracy lol".

In fairness to Peacemob it’s a lot harder to argue of the pros and cons of a radically new position than see the continued benefits of a status quo position we all know and live through.

It's their responsibility to convince everyone else why exactly that new thing is going to be better. And that is EXACTLY the point of changing the status quo. There MUST be very convincing arguments. So far there has been very few (if any).

I would assume they believe that they convinced the majority in 2016 and now it’s about ‘getting the job done’!

Any campaign based on hate and ignorance having such a strong response just shows how little we have evolved as a species.

Maybe so but we are where we are

“It is what it is” :’)

It's their responsibility to convince everyone else why exactly that new thing is going to be better. And that is EXACTLY the point of changing the status quo. There MUST be very convincing arguments. So far there has been very few (if any).

 

There are MANY reasons why the UK is a lot better off outside the EU project, but your problem is that you don't LISTEN. It's been 4 years so you probably never will. We now have Boris and the government, and slowly a Remainer-free civil service that is now implementing Brexit and listening to the people that won the EU referendum vote.

 

No more "we know best" from the BBC, the Remainer civil service, people like Theresa May that say "no deal is better than a bad deal" and then just extend to infinity.

 

Brexiteers are getting more and more in control and yes we OWN it because we want to own it, we WANT to take responsibility and now we are. And guess what, the EU project is floundering, it's not so easy when you don't have a country's elite in your back pocket any more and is instead working for the British people.

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Lovely and not at all psycho to think this is all just a game and won't affect lives.

What a weird comparison of 2 countries that have ZERO things in common. Belarus never even had true democracy to begin with :lol: :lol: :lol: The direction where Britain is going is, however, very reminiscent of Russia's 'let's create a hate campaign for a specific group of people/organisation/etc. and blame everything on them instead if when something goes wrong'. A hate-driven propaganda hype train designed to split the population so that people fought against each other instead of communicating and making the governments truly accountable for what they are doing.

Lovely how I read through like 56 pages of Peacemob's posts and the only 'arguments' provided were "the British are brave and tough" and "i like democracy lol".

 

The only hate I've seen in the last 4 years has come from Remain voters towards Leave voters. You have called Leave voters every name under the sun, filled with bile and venom. The mask well and truly slipped and woke even more people up to what type of people were leading this country.

Edited September 8, 20204 yr by PeaceMob

There are MANY reasons why the UK is a lot better off outside the EU project.

 

Can you name 3 please? Since there are so many...

 

We now have Boris and the government, and slowly a Remainer-free civil service that is now implementing Brexit and listening to the people that won the EU referendum vote.

 

That already happened on 31st January 2020 at 11pm, we have LEFT the European Union, get over it. There is no such thing as 'remainers' anymore, if you insist on living in the past then you should now probably be referring to the FBPE clique as 're-joiners'. The civil service are supposed to be impartial, they used to be until Dominic Cummings turned up of course.

 

Brexiteers are getting more and more in control and yes we OWN it because we want to own it, we WANT to take responsibility and now we are.

 

Good, looking forward to 2021 and our turbo charged, levelled-up economy. I'm also looking forward to you stopping BANGING ON ABOUT EUROPE.

Seeing as the top legal civil servant quit today over the changes to the Northern Ireland protocol, things are looking AUSPICIOUS for the future. As always.

 

Hope you enjoy a government that will work even less for the people than the Cameron/May governments ever did. Not even the EU propping needed investments for poor areas either.

*me looking at the scores of opinion polls that show rising support for the EU in EVERY EU country since the Brexit vote*

 

*hides news reports of Vestager making big US tech companies her bitch*

 

*flicking through all the applications for membership from the Balkan states and the notice of intention from Scotland to sink the UK and rejoin the EU*

 

 

 

Uh huh. Failing project. Ok.

What a weird comparison of 2 countries that have ZERO things in common. Belarus never even had true democracy to begin with :lol: :lol: :lol: The direction where Britain is going is, however, very reminiscent of Russia's 'let's create a hate campaign for a specific group of people/organisation/etc. and blame everything on them instead if when something goes wrong'. A hate-driven propaganda hype train designed to split the population so that people fought against each other instead of communicating and making the governments truly accountable for what they are doing.

 

Very accurate. The first signs of this have proliferated through the last few years, removal of Remainers from government, denigrating anyone involved with Corbyn, anyone who has the temerity to be unpatriotic, the university-educated young elite 'middle classes' (large numbers of whom are stuck in bad jobs and earning far less than older "working class" tradesmen, yet are out of touch by voting Labour, of course), anyone who tries to make Brexit less of a harm to people, experts... always a wonderful sign when your country engages in anti-intellectualism.

 

I am very afraid that the British government will inflict great harm to people in the next few years, perhaps just through negligence, but also because so many vulnerable will have nowhere else to go as workers rights, educational opportunities and healthcare is slashed to give pats on the back to Conservative friends in business and foreign trade deals.

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Well then.