It just seems like Liverpool are portrayed as sidekicks to Manchester City and are content with being on the same level but not better than them. You never hear Liverpool being mentioned without the word " and" in the same sentence.

 

Eh, who says this? Manchester City beat Liverpool last year by the finest of margins. If the ball travelled all of those extra milimeters over the line then title is Liverpool's. What you have got is two teams who are better than the rest in the league by some margin, but then it's the finer margins that will call the league itself. The head to head games will be really important this year. I think most people who say Liverpool and Man City's first XIs are about equal. But then City have a higher quality of squad depth.

 

City are a great team, but their spending is absolutely bonkers to which I don't think any team can compete. Quite rightly, if what I have read this weekend is going correct, they're going to be recommended to be banned from Europe for up to 3 seasons, which I don't think will happen, but it just shows you the level of how they're fudging figures against the rest of us.

Let's just take this opportunity to appreciate how Chelsea are in the relegation zone :lol:

Let's just take this opportunity to appreciate how Chelsea are in the relegation zone :lol:

 

Football is a funny old game. Chelsea weren't as bad as the scoreline suggests and Man Utd weren't as good either.

 

A hammering against a rival like that is always a great result though, the players and fans will take bags of confidence from it. Chelsea were much the better side until they capitulated. I still think the battle for 4th will be really tight, Chelsea can't score goals and Man Utd are definitely are some way off trying to control and dictate games in the way Liverpool/Man City do as they did a terrible job of it today for large periods. Still, great to have football back with us!

Its a good start by Arsenal, they play Burnley next week I expected them to score more against Newcastle though. I can see Brighton falling after their brilliant start when they start playing the bigger teams like Man City. But I didn't see Chelsea second from bottom of the table coming :lol:

Lampards P45 was waiting for him in the away dressing room. The United staff put it in a nice envelope for him after Romans urgent fax from his mega yacht.

 

 

 

To say I enjoyed that would be a serious understatement. Bit dicey in the first half, we’ve really done wonders in shoring up Defence but midfield will be a big problem for us over the year. Great debuts by all three. Absolutely made up for James scoring on his debut. After his summer, very well deserved. Love a demolishing of a big 6 rival, it’s been a whole since we dismantled one like this.

 

Lads looked fitter than they did at the end of last season. Are we gonna win the prem? Nah. But this is a solid step in the right direction. The start of Solskjaers management wasn’t a fluke, if he can keep them fit enough then we will do much better than predicted this year

Yous are still predicted to challenge for the top 4 which I think will happen. You never know yous might give Spurs a run for third. So no one really thinks your gonna be that bad tbf!

Yous are still predicted to challenge for the top 4 which I think will happen. You never know yous might give Spurs a run for third. So no one really thinks your gonna be that bad tbf!

 

Ah see this the optimism I love to see! Man Utd will be nowhere near Spurs at the end of the season, not even if Spurs go full Spurs. Wolves will win next week if Man Utd play anyway how they did today.

 

 

Ah see this the optimism I love to see! Man Utd will be nowhere near Spurs at the end of the season, not even if Spurs go full Spurs. Wolves will win next week if Man Utd play anyway how they did today.

We don't need to be close to Spurs if they are eventually going to finish 3rd and if we finish 4th, the prize of Champions League qualification will be the same for both clubs regardless. Finishing 2nd-4th is effectively the same thing which is kind of linked to what I was saying earlier, a team could finish with 111 points but as long as there is another team with more points than that you won't get a trophy not matter how much better than the rest you were.

 

 

It's like having 20 candidates being interviewed for one job and two of them standing out more than the rest but ultimately only one person being chosen for the role. The only gaps that truly matter in the Premier League are the gaps between 1st place and the rest, 4th place and 5th place & 17th place and the relegation zone.

Wolves will win next week if Man Utd play anyway how they did today.

Ok hun x

On the subject of today's match I though Wan-Bissaka was brilliant throughout and Harry Maguire had a decent game as well. It was really good to see Daniel James get a goal on his debut and as a whole a 4-0 win against one of our rivals is a great way to start the season but it's not a cause to get carried away because we won our first match against Leicester last season but then ended up losing the second against Brighton. We just have to try to keep this up over the next few games but Wolves away will be a very hard game and with it being a night match Wolves's fans will be extra pumped up which could help their squad.

Not gonna get carried away but absolutely buzzing at that result. It is true we were lucky not to go behind but we were just far more clinical. Those 2nd and 3rd goals though wow, was like watching the glory days - brilliant counter-attacking football. All 3 debutants played well BUT this will all mean little if we lose to Wolves next week. Which is highly likely as we always lose to f***ing Wolves.

We don't need to be close to Spurs if they are eventually going to finish 3rd and if we finish 4th, the prize of Champions League qualification will be the same for both clubs regardless. Finishing 2nd-4th is effectively the same thing which is kind of linked to what I was saying earlier, a team could finish with 111 points but as long as there is another team with more points than that you won't get a trophy not matter how much better than the rest you were.

It's like having 20 candidates being interviewed for one job and two of them standing out more than the rest but ultimately only one person being chosen for the role. The only gaps that truly matter in the Premier League are the gaps between 1st place and the rest, 4th place and 5th place & 17th place and the relegation zone.

 

It's this type of mentality why we have so many strange results at the end of the season. I get your point though.

 

Ok hun x

 

I'm a stats man, but I also like to see things with the naked eye. Chelsea got through you way too easily at times. Pogba stunk the place out until he decided to show up and increase his stats bomb after 70 minutes. Chelsea were waltzing through the midfield for large parts of the game.

They were, but they were just as vulnerable everytime we got forward.

 

Really though we need to see the real this season's Chelsea before we draw too many conclusions. Maybe they are just that bad so the result seems more impressive, maybe they need more time to bed in, or maybe they're a very good outfit and we just played them at the right time! After 4 weeks we can better gauge where all the teams are at.

A good weekend for the former Swansea employees.

Was impressed by how Mason Mount stepped up from the championship pretty seemlessly.

 

United did well once they went ahead today, Chelsea very unlucky to get beat so effectively as they didn't play that bad.

Trying not to get carried with the Man United result today, 2 seasons ago we beat West Ham 4-0 at Old Trafford on the opening day and fizzled out.

They were, but they were just as vulnerable everytime we got forward.

 

Really though we need to see the real this season's Chelsea before we draw too many conclusions. Maybe they are just that bad so the result seems more impressive, maybe they need more time to bed in, or maybe they're a very good outfit and we just played them at the right time! After 4 weeks we can better gauge where all the teams are at.

 

For me the result is as I said; the scoreline flatters Man Utd and is slightly harsh on Chelsea. Chelsea's big problem is they just don't have someone who scores goals. So many times last season Hazard got them out of trouble with individual brilliance. Pulisic is good, but he is not on Hazard's level. I think they will be better when CHO and RLF come back. They did do some impressive things, they moved the ball well through the midfield but the problem was I think Mourinho mentioned it as well, when they lost the ball in the transition they were not compact.

I've had some free time recently and found the Premier League website to have a few inaccuracies so I made a list of every player to play in the Premier League. After this weekend's fixtures there has been 4,125 players.

 

Most excitingly, we have a new first player alphabetically. Max Aarons overtakes his cousin Rolando for first place.

I haven't seen what Pereira brings to the table to Man United. He seems highly rated up to a point but it really eludes me.

He's quite inconsistent from what I've saw, in one minute he's puts a 30 yard free kick in the next can't pass 5 yards accurately.