I don’t understand where the changing the social distancing for the hospitality sector has come from within government. It remains firmly in place across the rest of the continent.

 

I was at a bar last week, it’s an open air one to be fair, but every table was spaced 1,5 metres they had a limited menu and it was strictly table service. The place was packed and everything ran smoothly! We had to leave contact details with the staff before the served us for track and trace purposes.

 

With the extra space it was actually quite pleasant

Well of course they would have an issue on it many people on this forum can’t tolerate an opinion that is different from theirs and get all heated over an Internet forum

Funny given the last time there was an argument you thought it was okay to throw childish insults and when it got heated you threw a tantrum and left.

I don’t understand where the changing the social distancing for the hospitality sector has come from within government. It remains firmly in place across the rest of the continent.

 

I was at a bar last week, it’s an open air one to be fair, but every table was spaced 1,5 metres they had a limited menu and it was strictly table service. The place was packed and everything ran smoothly! We had to leave contact details with the staff before the served us for track and trace purposes.

 

With the extra space it was actually quite pleasant

 

Some countries have gone down to 1m too haven't they? Surely the changing tact is the WHO recommendations. I'd have gathered 2m for a period of 2 weeks and then moved to 1m, but they must have crunched their numbers and got feedback from the lobbying groups and decided they need to implement it. The problem in lots of Englosh cities is there is not the space to do open air, especially in the medieval cities/towns.

 

Hoping that the Government enforces the track and trace options for vars and restaurants, that's one thing we definitely do need.

Some countries have gone down to 1m too haven't they? Surely the changing tact is the WHO recommendations. I'd have gathered 2m for a period of 2 weeks and then moved to 1m, but they must have crunched their numbers and got feedback from the lobbying groups and decided they need to implement it. The problem in lots of Englosh cities is there is not the space to do open air, especially in the medieval cities/towns.

 

Hoping that the Government enforces the track and trace options for vars and restaurants, that's one thing we definitely do need.

I havent heard of any country doing so on the continsnt but that might just be me.

Belgium, Netherlands and Germany are all 1.5m for sure and I think France, Spain as well

I havent heard of any country doing so on the continsnt but that might just be me.

Belgium, Netherlands and Germany are all 1.5m for sure and I think France, Spain as well

 

BBC said France and Denmark are all 1m. Don't know whether that is country wide or just for hospitality/leisure.

I think a couple of countries started out at 1m. I don’t recall anyone dropping their distance down either but I could have missed it.

 

As Tim says a lot of Northern Europe is 1,5m and hospitality has been able to reopen here. Not sure what it’s like where you are Tim, but I noticed a lot of smaller spots or places that have high traffic like Ikea and Berlin Hauptbahnhof have kept seating areas largely closed. Was raging when I couldn’t get meatballs for tea when I hit up ikea last week! :lol:

no meatballs in ikea start rioting silas x

I think a couple of countries started out at 1m. I don’t recall anyone dropping their distance down either but I could have missed it.

 

As Tim says a lot of Northern Europe is 1,5m and hospitality has been able to reopen here. Not sure what it’s like where you are Tim, but I noticed a lot of smaller spots or places that have high traffic like Ikea and Berlin Hauptbahnhof have kept seating areas largely closed. Was raging when I couldn’t get meatballs for tea when I hit up ikea last week! :lol:

Ikea is a small place?! I mean their seating area is closed here too but I think that has more to do with them not being able to monitor the social distancing.

 

I've been to bars for the first time in forever and the measures were all taken care off. A lot of then got permission to expand their areas so they can seat more people. It was really nice to be out again

Sorry, meant ikea is a high traffic place. They have a lot of guests usually. The bistro thing at the end was open but no meatballs 😭

 

@Pav - lowkey was tempted.

France is 1m now I think. At least that's how it is in school (but everyone wears masks).

 

On the other hand, I've been to markets and a beach bar/club where there isn't much distancing and little mask wearing. I can only hope that them being outside is the reason why we haven't seen a second wave yet, as indoor places tend to be much stricter. Like the difference hygiene protocol between Burger King and a café terrasse, or a supermarket and a market, is insane.

So Leicester has to stay in lockdown another two weeks, meaning that pubs, cafes and hairdressers can't now open until 18th. Most are furious according to The Sun

 

"Businesses affected expressed their anger about the decision to extend the lockdown.

 

Hairdresser Sandra May, 52, owner of DJ’s Groom Room & Sandra May’s Hair Studio, said: “I am absolutely furious and devastated.

 

“I’ve had so many calls from customers wanting to know what’s happening. We’re fully booked and they’ve just dropped us right in it.

 

“We’d taken the precautions with PPE and planned training for the staff, we were even doing our own track and tracing, we’ve sterilised everything - it’s cost a fortune.

 

“I’ve been following the rules but I’m opening on July 4 regardless. I’ve told all my clients.

 

“If they want to arrest all the hairdressers in Leicester they’ll have some prisoners with great hair.”

So Leicester has to stay in lockdown another two weeks, meaning that pubs, cafes and hairdressers can't now open until 18th. Most are furious according to The Sun

 

"Businesses affected expressed their anger about the decision to extend the lockdown.

 

Hairdresser Sandra May, 52, owner of DJ’s Groom Room & Sandra May’s Hair Studio, said: “I am absolutely furious and devastated.

 

“I’ve had so many calls from customers wanting to know what’s happening. We’re fully booked and they’ve just dropped us right in it.

 

“We’d taken the precautions with PPE and planned training for the staff, we were even doing our own track and tracing, we’ve sterilised everything - it’s cost a fortune.

 

“I’ve been following the rules but I’m opening on July 4 regardless. I’ve told all my clients.

 

“If they want to arrest all the hairdressers in Leicester they’ll have some prisoners with great hair.”

 

Well she is an idiot if it she does it. Part of me thinks the Leicester front is the Government making an example for the rest of England. But I also do think it is the right thing to do as well.

 

I might have read too much crap, but is it true that lots of the cases seem to be imported?

I might have read too much crap, but is it true that lots of the cases seem to be imported?

From where? Loughborough? England has one of the worst, if not the worst, outbreaks per capita in the world, and the amount of travel isn't enough to explain recent cases, even if every single traveller carried the virus.

When they cut the distancing down to 1m on Saturday, what some people aren’t understanding about it is that it’s only for the businesses who cannot operate 2m apart. It will still be 2m for places like outdoors, cinemas, supermarkets and shopping centres where they can keep/operate 2m apart

From where? Loughborough? England has one of the worst, if not the worst, outbreaks per capita in the world, and the amount of travel isn't enough to explain recent cases, even if every single traveller carried the virus.

 

As in a lot of the cases in Leicester are from people returning from Pakistan. It was in a couple of the broadsheets at the weekend. I don't know true it is or whether it is hyperbole but quite a few non-racist people seem to have picked up on it.

As in a lot of the cases in Leicester are from people returning from Pakistan. It was in a couple of the broadsheets at the weekend. I don't know true it is or whether it is hyperbole but quite a few non-racist people seem to have picked up on it.

 

Iirc this was a false report. There were 30 cases; papers were claiming 50% of ALL infections.

In better news the UK 7-day moving average of new positive cases has fallen below 1,000 for the first time since the second day of the lockdown (25th March) with 974 cases, and there have been zero Covid-19 related deaths in Scotland for the past 4 days.

It’s clear that the slower pace in Scotland is resulting in no deaths. Statistically you’d expect at least a small number of deaths. Well done Nic you’ve impressed me :clap:

That really goes to show what can be achieved with competent leadership.

From where? Loughborough? England has one of the worst, if not the worst, outbreaks per capita in the world, and the amount of travel isn't enough to explain recent cases, even if every single traveller carried the virus.

from the weather vein you will become a cock