I see Boris still employing the „when Angela says lockdown I say lockdown“ model. The original uk one came around the same number of days after Germany’s was announced too

 

I suspect some of it is watching the likes of France, Belgium, Germany etc. put measures in - it's pretty much inevitable everywhere in Europe right now. Seems odd Raab was on the news this morning peddling the Tiered system when it sounds like they made the call Thursday to go national. Just don't get they didn't do this over half term. I don't think the rest of the UK will follow England as they have already done something, possibly Wales might as not sure their circuit breaker was long enough. Who knows really it's a guessing game.

 

One thing is for sure there will certainly be a lot more anarchy and chaos this time around.

Why on earth does this PM always react last in terms of lockdowns if this is going to happen like, ridiculous!

If Boris is doing a lockdown, he should allow places such as McDonalds, Burger King and KFC to remain open but drive thru only and to close the outlets which don’t have a drive thru and allow restaurants such as Nando’s and Harvester for instance to open but take away only

but I thought Keir Starmer was playing political games in the middle of a pandemic when he was talking about a national lockdown a couple of weeks ago.

 

Late as usual, useless government, solidarity to all of you having to deal with it.

According to Sky, some Cabinet members and many Tory MP's are still against a full national lockdown because of it's effect on business. So not certain yet and will be decided finally over the weekend. The R has actually fallen slightly in some areas over the past few days.

Why on earth does this PM always react last in terms of lockdowns if this is going to happen like, ridiculous!

 

 

It's a fine balancing act. Business and jobs have already taken a huge hit this year.

Indeed plus locking down the country twice a year simply isn't sustainable in the event this virus simply can't be eradicated.

According to Sky, some Cabinet members and many Tory MP's are still against a full national lockdown because of it's effect on business. So not certain yet and will be decided finally over the weekend. The R has actually fallen slightly in some areas over the past few days.

The R number is indeed believed to have fallen in some parts but is still probably above 1 more or less everywhere

The R number is indeed believed to have fallen in some parts but is still probably above 1 more or less everywhere

 

 

Yes it is but some places have fallen from say 1.3 to 1.1 or 1.2 to 1.0.

Tell that to the hundreds of people going into the hospital due to Covid each day, there won’t be any business left at this rate if the virus isn’t controlled. As they say if the workforce isn’t safe and healthy there isn’t an economy anyway!

Why on earth does this PM always react last in terms of lockdowns if this is going to happen like, ridiculous!

 

Because he is led by the public opinion and not what a great leader truly is, someone who LEADS the public.

Indeed plus locking down the country twice a year simply isn't sustainable in the event this virus simply can't be eradicated.

 

It's not sustainable but currently we have no mass testing, vaccine or preventative drugs. This surely will come in the next 3-4 months. The problem is the projections are grim, we could be in a position where we can't accept any hospital admissions in 4-6 weeks. That is just not sustsinable. I mean most of us all saw this coming. Totally agree we on't have an enconomy left if we keep locking down, but we have no healthcare system if the NHS collapses.

Press conference coming at 4pm. Looks like it's happening.

 

My workplace would probably be exempt this time, but I'm wondering whether or not we'll go entirely remote as we did it successfully last year. I suppose at least the trains will be quieter!

Nicola saying that if there is a lockdown in England, it might not necessarily happen in Scotland. I’m not sure, the new levels system starts on Monday but I could maybe see them delaying that by two weeks and having a circuit breaker instead of a month-long lockdown. Or, the levels will come into place on Monday as planned and if hospitalisations haven’t gone down in two/three weeks we’ll follow England and have a lockdown then.

If Boris is doing a lockdown, he should allow places such as McDonalds, Burger King and KFC to remain open but drive thru only and to close the outlets which don’t have a drive thru and allow restaurants such as Nando’s and Harvester for instance to open but take away only

That's what they did in America during their lockdown, all the fast food places were still open but you could only take out via a drive thru or have your food delivered.

 

 

Goodness knows what Christmas shopping will be like this year if lockdown lasts for the whole of November and possibly beyond!

Press conference coming at 4pm. Looks like it's happening.

My workplace would probably be exempt this time, but I'm wondering whether or not we'll go entirely remote as we did it successfully last year. I suppose at least the trains will be quieter!

 

 

It's 5pm now. National Lockdown from later this week/early next week until 2nd Dec according to Sky.

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What is the bloody point of announcing a three tier system only to immediately scrap it for a mystical fourth tier like a fcking Power Ranger...

What is the bloody point of announcing a three tier system only to immediately scrap it for a mystical fourth tier like a fcking Power Ranger...

 

 

To make it appear they're really doing something this time?

Also, they are going to absolutely gut the economy doing this without any kind of furlough or extended universal credit.

 

The reason France and Germany are able to do things like this is because they don't have a completely tattered social safety net wherein people out of work have a pittance to live on that doesn't even cover rent in most bigger cities.