November 1, 20205 yr It feels like it happens a little too often for my liking on a wider scale (not just Ariana, off the top of my head the Little Mix vs. Kylie thread was exhausting to read, although 'stan war' toxicity definitely comes into play too) - so this just felt like another example of it. Fair enough if you didn't mean it to be that way.
November 1, 20205 yr Where's the positions vs. Lemonade discussion? Our actual top 2 who would be more suitable to compare? :o
November 1, 20205 yr Why isn't Monster Mash on ACR? Thriller surely is. Maybe Halloween is now classed as active promotion and it’s got a reset :D
November 1, 20205 yr As someone who doesn’t really Stan or follow Ariana or Miley and they aren’t really my kind of thing I just find it hard to understand why Ariana immediately jumps to number one with (nearly) every release whereas Miley makes great songs and has to rise slowly. I do like some earlier Ariana releases like ‘Break Free’, ‘One Last Time’ and the fantastic ‘No Tears Left To Cry’. All great pop songs. Maybe I don’t like the more urban leaning releases if that makes sense.
November 1, 20205 yr I hope 'motive' can stay top 20, the best and (only) good song from Ariana's album.
November 1, 20205 yr As someone who doesn’t really Stan or follow Ariana or Miley and they aren’t really my kind of thing I just find it hard to understand why Ariana immediately jumps to number one with (nearly) every release whereas Miley makes great songs and has to rise slowly. I do like some earlier Ariana releases like ‘Break Free’, ‘One Last Time’ and the fantastic ‘No Tears Left To Cry’. All great pop songs. Maybe I don’t like the more urban leaning releases if that makes sense. No Tears Left To Cry was indeed very good. Unfortunately, a lot of her most recent songs have been fairly mediocre. By contrast, I would agree that Miley Cyrus's most recent work (the last two or three years) has been the best of her career. Still, what do we know? :lol:
November 1, 20205 yr I do like some earlier Ariana releases like ‘Break Free’, ‘One Last Time’ and the fantastic ‘No Tears Left To Cry’. All great pop songs. Maybe I don’t like the more urban leaning releases if that makes sense. I really liked “Love Me Harder” but of course that struggled to number 48. There really isn't anything wrong with that of course, but I've just accepted that I am old and completely out of touch with what is popular. :lol: I should add that the blatant misogyny that often accompanies the criticisms in here (and elsewhere on the internet) DOES make me feel uncomfortable sometimes.
November 1, 20205 yr I'm not coming for anyone's taste btw - I'm about as far from a music snob as you can get :P there have just been issues with pitting females and casual sexism in here in the past, which really put me off from posting, so I feared it was cropping up again. That's totally fair and many people agree that the 'sweetener' singles are her best. I would agree 'no tears left to cry' is a career highlight :wub: and 'Love Me Harder' was slept on for sure Doctor B - thankfully top 10 in the U.S.
November 1, 20205 yr Love Me Holder is Gold certified, that's more than what a few of her top 10 hits got (Boyfriend, Focus, Imagine, Needy, Stuck With U), more of a sleeper hit really.
November 2, 20205 yr Well, The Weeknd was hardly well known among the GP back then. And that was seven years ago, careers have come and gone since then.
November 2, 20205 yr Love me Harder was pre-Earned it and Can't feel my face if released today it would probably be a 10-week #1
November 2, 20205 yr Come on Cliff!!! :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: Edited November 2, 20205 yr by SmileyKylie
November 2, 20205 yr 'Love Me Harder' compared to 'Off The Table' is actually a very stark example of how far the quality has slipped.
November 2, 20205 yr http://i.imgur.com/zf9EQCp.png Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100 Source: OCC Missing Data: unknown Top 100 Singles 1 Ariana Grande - positions (18.0k) 2 Internet Money & Gunna feat. Don Toliver & NAV - Lemonade (13.7k) 3 Wes Nelson & Hardy Caprio - See Nobody (11.6k) 4 Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky (11.3k) 5 Tate McRae - you broke me first (11.1k) 6-10 6 Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 8 Ariana Grande - 34+35 * 11-20 11 Sigala & James Arthur - Lasting Lover 13 Ariana Grande & Doja Cat - motive * 14 Sam Smith - Diamonds 20 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash ^ 21-30 22 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters ^ 24 Michael Jackson - Thriller ^ 25 Rudimental feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne - Come Over 27 Tion Wayne feat. MIST - Deluded * 31-40 39 Meduza feat. Dermot Kennedy - Paradise * ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Top 100 Albums 1 Ariana Grande - positions (13.5k) * 2 Sam Smith - Love Goes (12.9k) * 3 Cliff Richard - Music... The Air That I Breathe (10.9k) 4 Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You (8.0k) 5 The Style Council - Long Hot Summers: The Story Of The Style Council (5.3k) 6-10 6 Bring Me the Horizon - POST HUMAN: SURVIVAL HORROR * 7 Amy MacDonald - The Human Demands * 8 Black Stone Cherry - The Human Condition * 9 M Huncho & Nafe Smallz - DNA * 10 Dizzee Rascal - E3 AF * 11-20 11 David Bowie - Ouvrez Le Chien * 13 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind ^ 15 Wizkid - Made In Lagos * 16 Camelphat - Dark Matter * 17 Eels - Earth to Dora * 19 Mr. Bungle - The Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny Demo * 21-30 21 Elvis Costello - Hey Clockface * 23 Jane McDonald - Cruising with Jane McDonald, Vol. 2 * 31-40 31 Motorhead - Ace of Spades ^ 38 Troye Sivan - In a Dream ^ Click on the above relevant links.
November 2, 20205 yr Eeek at Ariana.. is she even gonna pass 20k? With ease probably, she's adding quite a lot daily as streaming catches up.
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