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Oh my god please I beg of you please leave your f***ing house. Put down the internet and go be at one with nature. It isn’t healthy to be this relentlessly negative about every god damn little thing. Yes it’s still out there but no one has died of corona after being fully vaccinated and the vaccine taking full effect. The real world is showing these vaccines are remarkably effective, the mRNA ones in particular are proving to be more effective than most of the vaccines we have previously developed for things like DTaP and MMR. Incredible scientific breakthrough.

 

Any breakthrough will be handled by a booster shot that all the developers are already working on and even the UK gov is preparing for boosters.

 

There is *no reason* based on the data for you to be this relentlessly negative and sour about the World. It isn’t healthy *for you*

 

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Seriously Snake, enough is enough of this now. I am very close to muting you.

To add to the good news pile...We had our biggest day for jabs yesterday here in Iceland - 12,000(the equivalent of about 2m in the UK..yes I know we're tiny). We also did a similar number the day before so things are definitely picking up speed now on the continent!

 

It's look a bit more hopeful for me flying home for my sisters wedding in August now!

We „only“ did 916k yesterday. Our numbers peak on Wednesday and then fall to a low on Sunday of around 250k then climb back up to the weds peak.

 

We need more 7 day vaccination plans here but it’s tough when you check the numbers and realise that the 250-300k per day we see at weekends is just the vax centres and the big peaks are driven by the GP clinics. More than 700k doses were given by GPs in Germany on Weds.

Seems like I am able to get a vaccine soon over here, probably within the next month. Which I am taking as a good sign that the Chinese vaccination program is going well. Would naturally be Sinovac/Sinopharm, but I'm still holding out some hope that restrictions will change and I might be able to come to the UK for summer.
What do people think on the latest stuff RE the blood clots? I suspect the JCVI will change their recommendation and recommend Under 40s to not be offered the jab. I suspect we're going to have really low take up otherwise in the UK when we get to the lower ages. Although it could also be a recommendation if you have low blood platets too, which I'm guessing lots of people don't know.
Great to see the vaccination programme ramping up so much throughout EU. Hopefully the US/UK/EU will finish their vaccinations sooner rather than later and help other countries with their vaccinations more.
What do people think on the latest stuff RE the blood clots? I suspect the JCVI will change their recommendation and recommend Under 40s to not be offered the jab. I suspect we're going to have really low take up otherwise in the UK when we get to the lower ages. Although it could also be a recommendation if you have low blood platets too, which I'm guessing lots of people don't know.

 

I’m more than likely to get the Astra vaccine on Sunday, and the stories of blot clots hasn’t given me any cause for concern ahead of the jab. The likelihood of me getting clots are so astronomically low that it’s preferable to getting COVID from non-vaccination. And nearly all my friends signed up to the jab when it opened this morning (which I admit is a small self-selecting sample), which suggests if there is any hesitancy, we haven’t reached the age group when we really see it yet.

My Family doesn’t have a great track record with blood clots so I personally am staying well away from AZ & Janssen. I don’t want to take that risk. Ironically my Dad, who had a stroke, is the only one in our immediate family who has the AZ but he is still on blood thinners so the risk is lowered for him than the rest of us.

 

I have a choice in Germany but it’s really about what I can get an appt for. Likely at the moment to be Moderna unless the GP comes through quicker than the City in which case it’ll be BioNTech. BioNTech appts through the city are impossible to get at the moment

I’m more than likely to get the Astra vaccine on Sunday, and the stories of blot clots hasn’t given me any cause for concern ahead of the jab. The likelihood of me getting clots are so astronomically low that it’s preferable to getting COVID from non-vaccination. And nearly all my friends signed up to the jab when it opened this morning (which I admit is a small self-selecting sample), which suggests if there is any hesitancy, we haven’t reached the age group when we really see it yet.

 

Which is all fine, the risk is still relatively low of getting a blood clot but so is the risk of dying from covid. I'm sure I read that the younger you get the higher the chance of a blood clot. And we're talking of a similar number in 30s and 40s with a lower sample range vs the older age groups. Got to be a tough choice now as with rates so low there is not the immediate rush to get people vaccinated to protect others. Looks like they will come to a decision over the next week.

The latest Private Eye put the risk of blood clots in context very well.

 

If all 4.4m people who have tested positive for Covid in the UK had been vaccinated, around 22 of them would have had a blood clot as a result. Five of them would have died. There having been no vaccine available, 130,000 of those 4.4m died.

I’m trying to get my brother to try his luck phoning for a vaccine. He’s 35 next month and I have a 25 year old colleague getting his first tomorrow and another colleague’s 18 year old daughter had hers today so it looks like all ages are getting them in my area. I think he’s a little reluctant to try for it because he feels he may be queue jumping but I think he should give it a go.

 

Given up completely on my parents getting one.

The latest Private Eye put the risk of blood clots in context very well.

 

If all 4.4m people who have tested positive for Covid in the UK had been vaccinated, around 22 of them would have had a blood clot as a result. Five of them would have died. There having been no vaccine available, 130,000 of those 4.4m died.

 

But that stuff is useless imo as it's too top level. Your risk is far greater the younger you are (for whatever reason) so that has to be weighted as a factor, going from about 1 in 500,000 to 1 in about 97,000. Regardless of how rare it is, that is some significant swing when the risk factors for covid are compared against that particular large age group.

 

The Government will be in a pickle as there's no way June 21st can happen if we've not made headway in to the Under 40s.

If you have a family history where blood clots are concerned and you are young then yes I can totally see why would want to have Pfizer/Moderna.

 

I think the pauses and limiting to older age groups was the right move but still maintain there's been unnecessary scaremongering as far as AZ and Jensen are concerned. A 1 in 97000 chance of me getting a bloodclot vs the risk of catching covid and becoming very sick and dying. I know which one I'd take. But again, thats me personally.

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I must agree that ideally yes they should decide to offer everyone under 40 the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine to stop vaccine scepticism rising for 30-40 year olds.
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I must agree that ideally yes they should decide to offer everyone under 40 the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine to stop vaccine scepticism rising for 30-40 year olds.

 

Think that's what may happen - looks like the vaccine supply would allow it.

 

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Also some good news...

The ONS data survey released on Friday showed prevalence continuing to decline despite the lifting of restrictions so it's looking likely that given the vaccine rollout being complete by the start of July things can pretty much get back to near normality.

 

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From my friends who have already got their jab since it opened to the over 30s yesterday, it seems as if most, if not all of them have been given the AstaZenica jab, which would end up with a strange situation that when they come to get their 2nd jab in July (seems to be a 10 week 2nd jab window for NI), they could be given a jab that they their age range is technically disallowed from receiving.

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