Not too long ago, was over 40,000 on September 6th. Been around ~35k since. There's been a big uptick in covid cases in secondary schools recently from what I was reading. Plus we''ve had proper autumn weather recently/we're getting closer to winter. I wouldn't be surprised to see cases 50k+ by the end of the month.

 

It's all been driven by schools, no surprise when there is little to no vaccination. Seems like loads of teachers are avoiding getting it, which is a positive that it's likely to lessen the community spread. We're definitely going to see cases go up, question will be when they peak and at what number..

Over 8000 hospitalisations overall at the minute which is the important figure!

Really concerning I think that only 7 countries are left on the travel red list, and that Brazil which had one of the worst countries for covid spread and new variants, has been taken off the red list. How do we know there arent undiscovered variants in places like Brazil where the countries' government hasn't really been able to control the spread of covid.

Edited October 7, 20213 yr by sn👠ke

Doesn’t stop Johnson meeting the Brazilian leader maskless during the summer!

We have no red list countries, no day two tests and *checks notes* we effectively monitor variants, haven’t created a variant that shut half the globe last Xmas, didn’t let Delta into Europe to wreck havoc, and have significantly lower case rates.

 

It’s almost as if the problem isn’t the border policy but what happens within the country that’s an issue.

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It's beyond frustrating to read through a report like this and look back through this very forum to see so many of our assessments/predictions/concerns come true.

 

And there will be exactly zero consequences for the Government for this failure sadly.

 

What is extremely worrying is the abuse that is now routinely administered to members of the NHS who are unable to perform the service due to chronic underfunding and covid backlog. This is egged on by the anti vaxx and other right wing commentators.

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It's beyond frustrating to read through a report like this and look back through this very forum to see so many of our assessments/predictions/concerns come true.

And don’t forget this is a report by a committee with a Tory majority so it can’t just be dismissed as biased.

Wife's employer, the lady, and daughter, 16 are both Covid positive so she's not going there for a week now. Think the lass got it in 6th Form as loads are off with it. Her mum refused to be vaccinated and is quite ill, 58.

 

EDIT. She says she'll have the jab when she's better. :rolleyes:

Edited October 12, 20213 yr by common sense

Her mum refused to be vaccinated and is quite ill, 58.

 

:( Hope she is OK and maybe she will change her mind about the vaccine as a result of getting quite severe Covid. I am worried about this coming winter anyway especially if some controls such as mask and distancing laws aren't reintroduced, and I am worried that the NHS will get overwhelmed with covid and flu hospitalisations.

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It's beyond frustrating to read through a report like this and look back through this very forum to see so many of our assessments/predictions/concerns come true.

 

Exactly, similar to Grenfell - any future inquiry is likely to be used to simply eat time and distract so as to allow those who are truly culpable to escape any deserved consequences whatsoever. With Grenfell they decided to redirect any bad feeling and anger where it should have been directed by scapegoating the firefighters and then hoping the media circus would conveniently move on when the years of central government deregulation and endless drive for profit by private landlords was identified as the real reason behind such a tragic event. Sets a great example doesn't it? I suppose we should split the Covid-19 response into two parts too, the first looking at how it was dealt with by the NHS: working flat-out to deliver a highly successful vaccine rollout, and then the second looking at the complete and utter shambles that was the government response through the first three months of 2020.

And, of course, on the day the report was published it was also announced that Hapless Hancock has got a new job with the UN. Naturally, he won't be resigning as an MP so he can concentrate on his new job.

It seems to be one rule for those in power and another for everyone else. If a member of the general public messed up badly in their jobs then there would be consequences such as being fired. Johnston and his cronies appear to be getting away with murder and there is also a lack of effective challenge from the opposition too. The worst part is they continue to make the same mistakes and haven’t learned anything.

Anyone getting a bit sick of the demeaning of the unvaccinated.

 

I've heard quite a few people recently utter the exact phrase/variations of it (when justifying not wearing a face covering, or returning to pre-Covid behaviours) "Well, if they haven't had the jab by now and they die of it it's their own bloody fault."

 

Whilst there's an argument that with most people vaccinated precautions should be lowered I'm not sure people walking round saying that is the most helpful thing on the planet.

It's not a nice answer to give to the above but apart from the ones who genuinely cannot be vaccinated to medical reasons, no, we have to follow the overwhelming scientific evidence when dealing with a serious public health crisis. The unvaccinated take up hospital resources and are more likely to spread covid. It is somewhat similar to people speeding, they cause a risk to others.

Edited October 14, 20213 yr by Smint

I agree

The biggest age category of unvaccinated is under 30s. Take up has really slowed and while this age group is fairly low at risk of developing a serious illness, they can easily pass it onto someone vulnerable who may not survive. That’s why everyone really should be vaccinated to help limit the transmission unless you have a medical reason whereby you can’t have the jab.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58937582

 

Really concerning, I worry that Russia now will be the next breeding ground for new covid variants.

Edited October 16, 20213 yr by sn👠ke

On the day that the Scottish government introduce Vaccine Passports and the increases in infections, deaths and hospitalisations does the UK government have to change its tactics on the battle against Covid?

On the day that the Scottish government introduce Vaccine Passports and the increases in infections, deaths and hospitalisations does the UK government have to change its tactics on the battle against Covid?

 

Clearly something needs to be done, won't be too long before masks are re-introduced. Read a few things about vaccine passports and not convinced they are the answer personally, not sure they will have that much of an effect on transmission on a wider scale. The problem the UK has is mainly the transmission in education, it's gonna be a rough winter.