Okay Hancock just announced Tier 3 for London midnight tomorrow. So non-food shops shut in run up to Christmas, their most profitable time. They won't be happy.

 

Pretty sure 'non-essential' retail isn't affected by tier 3? Just hospitality and entertainment/leisure venues etc.

I’d feel more sorry for people who haven’t done their shopping yet.

 

Personally I did all mine in November online but there’s always people who seem to think they need to go in person just before the day.

 

 

I'd say lots don't do it until the last week.

Pretty sure 'non-essential' retail isn't affected by tier 3? Just hospitality and entertainment/leisure venues etc.

 

 

Yes, sorry, got confused again with a full lockdown.

The UK only has itself to blame. This whole situation could have been avoided if they had motivated people to isolate in the first place, instead of the typical puritan model of punishments and deprivals throughout the whole year, hoping to cow people by force into obeying.

No meeting and no hospitality at the busiest time of year is laughable, and it's laughable to think that people will obey it. The government has completely and utterly lost control of the situation, and they've done it by deliberately choosing to operate a boy who cries wolf policy throughout the whole year.

 

All they had to do was NOT treat the public like obedient little robots, but that was too hard for the Tories.

I'm not too surprised about the East End, we've had to get tests in for some boroughs near me and I've actually had some first hand experience as my grandad has tested positive, that's the first person I'm really close to that's been affected :(

 

This isn't gonna work at all alas, it's just not the season where people will do as they're told, especially with the relaxation on the 23rd, cases in January will be grim but I guess the positive is barely anyone does anything in January? :lol:

Yeah ppl are meeting at each others homes anyway which isn't even permitted in tier 2 so the move to tier 3 won't do anything to quell that...

 

And all the massive shopping centres like Westfield will remain open anyway so if anything everyone's just gonna bung themselves there just for somewhere to go or something to do now pubs/restaurants aren't an option anymore.

The UK only has itself to blame. This whole situation could have been avoided if they had motivated people to isolate in the first place, instead of the typical puritan model of punishments and deprivals throughout the whole year, hoping to cow people by force into obeying.

 

I don't think think the government can do much more at the moment, there will always be people who don't obey the guidelines.

The UK only has itself to blame. This whole situation could have been avoided if they had motivated people to isolate in the first place, instead of the typical puritan model of punishments and deprivals throughout the whole year, hoping to cow people by force into obeying.

 

Look you can lead a horse to the trough but you can't force it to drink. Some people just won't isolate when they should or obey any other rules.

Yeah you are right looks like he is at half 3 today.

 

Those cases do not make for pretty viewing at all but at least London has plenty of hospital capacity (from what I understand anyway).

 

 

No, have read today that London hospitals are now 93% full.

Source?

Source?

 

 

From The Sun:

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13470849/lond...-hancock-covid/

 

 

This morning, health bosses delivered a grim briefing to London MPs this morning warning that Covid is once again surging through the capital.

 

Infection rates have rocketed “exponentially” in all boroughs apart from Kensington and Chelsea, and cases are now "off the charts", politicians were told.

 

London’s hospital occupancy now stands at 93 per cent, too, with MPs worried about the impact in January, one of the busiest times of the year.

 

Before the surge in infections in the last few days, the earliest London was expected to go into Tier 3 was December 19, a few days after the review on December 16.

 

But the timetable has been dramatically hauled forward, with scientists and ministers believing more urgent action is needed to stop the sudden spiral in cases.

 

Last week Mr Hancock announced mobile testing units to be ordered into schools in London and the South East over soaring cases.

89% of all statistics printed in the Sun are made up.

89% of all statistics printed in the Sun are made up.

 

 

Source?

Haha!

 

Ch4 News are reporting that there’s a new variant of C19 at play in the south of England’s spread.

Hospital capacity is at 98% in Northern Ireland. The same story also says that there have been outbreaks in 113(!) care homes (including the one my girlfriend's gran is in). The sooner they can get the vaccine roll-out to care homes the better, I'm presuming that we'll be back in lockdown shortly after Christmas, if not sooner.

The amount of hospital admissions and cases didn’t actually decrease in the month from Nov 10th!

The Netherlands has gone into a full lockdown for the first time this oandemic. Everything is closed except for essential stores. Hopefully this'll bring numbers down

Cases, hospitalisations AND care hom infections are all rising so imma pray. I need the gym

These numbers are why I think the government should have made their rules that only two or one households being able to meet up not three over Christmas which would have made a better balance between mental health and slowing covid spread down. Of course its almost completely unenforceable but just in an official advice measure it would have been better I think.

Not sure if this has any bearing on it, but the most common family "size" is with two children (well according to Statista it was the most common in 2019). Now say that by their early 20s, maybe both children have since left home, that would automatically make that now a "three household" bubble if both children were then to meet with their parents over Christmas.

 

If that IS the most common "family size" then three households would make sense. And not sure who would want to tell them "it's either none of you meeting up, or one of you is going to have to miss out" at a time were maybe they haven't seen each other since March.

 

I know I'm very grateful that three households are allowed to bubble, so that I can see both my sister (who I've not seen since our birthday in March) and my parents.