Any ideas at to where Treat People With Kindness is??

#69 but expecting it to be booted out entirely by Falling due to the 3 track rule :drama:

#69 but expecting it to be booted out entirely by Falling due to the 3 track rule :drama:

 

Awe, that’s a shame. What are the chances of Fine Line charting at 2??

I just think the album format is dying in general. With streaming so many more people are just using playlists, they're not bothered about albums much anymore. Do I think they should be doing more with trying to come up with ways to counter act that? Absolutely. Nothing feels better than listening to an album of songs by your fave artists and getting drawn in by the songs you hadn't heard before etc..

 

We can come up with ways to boost the numbers in the sales, but ultimately nothing will change. The same amount of people are still going to be buying/streaming the albums. The only difference being that the number of "sales" will change to make it look healthier. If there was a way to make it so that one account "purchases" that album so that it's added to their streaming library or something and then that counts as a "sale" (so then the amount of times they listen to that album isn't reflected and they can't "cheat the system") then great, they should go for it. But I would like to think that OCC have tried to get as accurate a way as possible to portray the most popular albums in the streaming charts.

There could be a campaign to get "Afterglow" to #1 for Ed’s 30th birthday next month or if it gets #1 this month, it could stay at the top through to next month

There could be a campaign to get "Afterglow" to #1 for Ed’s 30th birthday next month or if it gets #1 this month, it could stay at the top through to next month

What an absolute bore fest that would be.

The amount of JB in the top 40 :puke:

I just think the album format is dying in general. With streaming so many more people are just using playlists, they're not bothered about albums much anymore. Do I think they should be doing more with trying to come up with ways to counter act that? Absolutely. Nothing feels better than listening to an album of songs by your fave artists and getting drawn in by the songs you hadn't heard before etc..

 

We can come up with ways to boost the numbers in the sales, but ultimately nothing will change. The same amount of people are still going to be buying/streaming the albums. The only difference being that the number of "sales" will change to make it look healthier. If there was a way to make it so that one account "purchases" that album so that it's added to their streaming library or something and then that counts as a "sale" (so then the amount of times they listen to that album isn't reflected and they can't "cheat the system") then great, they should go for it. But I would like to think that OCC have tried to get as accurate a way as possible to portray the most popular albums in the streaming charts.

I am a huge album purist and have for many years almost exclusively listened to albums from start to end and not shuffled songs / listened to playlists. One thing that is keeping that alive for me is the resurgance of vinyls which encourage listening to albums from start to end with no interruptions.

 

I will always favour albums as an artform over everything else which is why I can't really enjoy Mabel's latest offering because it has completely mocked the album format and has become a bit of a joke with no artistic integrity or vision. That sounds incredibly snobby I am aware, but my listening habits and tastes are my own and I can't see it changing even with the changing format of streaming.

 

One thing that I do sorely miss is an artist's desire to continue their era of music beyond the first week of the album being released. Post-album singles becoming a vanishing trend is so upsetting :(

But considering how HUGE albums like Thank U Next, Folklore, Scorpion, Divide etc have been on streaming, surely there is commercial demand for albums in streaming as well?

 

Also, album is still #1 way to build the image and artistry, especially now when gigs are basically not allowed anywhere. 2020 was brilliant year for albums maybe because artists needed a way to build their careers and momentum and created great bodies of work in the process.

 

Also, album is still #1 way to build the image and artistry, especially now when gigs are basically not allowed anywhere. 2020 was brilliant year for albums maybe because artists needed a way to build their careers and momentum and created great bodies of work in the process.

This bit is very true. The artists that have proven to last in the game for a long while are the ones that develop fully-fledged albums rather than releasing singles here and there. Can we think of any artist that has lasted for a while (~a decade?) just on releasing the odd single here and there and not mustering up healthy album sales?

Jason Derulo is about the only one I can think of ~

There could be a campaign to get "Afterglow" to #1 for Ed’s 30th birthday next month or if it gets #1 this month, it could stay at the top through to next month

 

I honestly don't think anyone cares enough about his 30th birthday and the charts to make that push for him? I'll eat my words if I'm wrong. I reckon it still could go #1 but not thanks to a campaign.

He was the name I had in my head too! I mean he did have several years where no one heard from him and so this recent resurgance was a comeback, but yeah, he's the only one in my mind too :thinking:

Sean Paul.

 

Who has had number 1s in TWO decades !!

Dutty Rock is kind of iconic in its genre, but there's not much after that.

This bit is very true. The artists that have proven to last in the game for a long while are the ones that develop fully-fledged albums rather than releasing singles here and there. Can we think of any artist that has lasted for a while (~a decade?) just on releasing the odd single here and there and not mustering up healthy album sales?

Calvin Harris could easily continue to have big singles and not bother with albums (assuming he goes back to his dance bangers sound at some point).

Yes he could but that doesn't mean that his albums haven't been relevant?

I have never really understood how Jason Derulo has lasted this long. I can’t think of any time I’ve wanted to get invested in him as an artist.

This bit is very true. The artists that have proven to last in the game for a long while are the ones that develop fully-fledged albums rather than releasing singles here and there. Can we think of any artist that has lasted for a while (~a decade?) just on releasing the odd single here and there and not mustering up healthy album sales?

 

You could probably say Mark Ronson? Not sure he's had any albums anyone particular cares about and must have literally 0 fanbase, but he does have the ability to pull in top artists and write a top song as and when he feels like it!

 

you could add Martin Solveig to this list too!

You could probably say Mark Ronson? Not sure he's had any albums anyone particular cares about and must have literally 0 fanbase, but he does have the ability to pull in top artists and write a top song as and when he feels like it!

 

you could add Martin Solveig to this list too!

 

I’m noticing a lot of DJs/producers etc. being mentioned, and it’s always kind of been that way that their albums are hit and miss. For pop, R&B etc. there’s still a massive demand for albums and for investing in an artist as a whole. Right now it seems to be mostly random artists that get the huge, multi-week #1s then are never heard from again, whereas the major artists don’t do as well on the singles chart anymore but still get good album sales (relative to the market!). I’m not articulating this very well but I hope you know what I mean lol.

I think one of the reasons album sales are in the pits is because it's sooooo rare that an album campaign actually continues past release week these days (possibly because Spotify are so horrible with post album singles). Artists like Dua and Harry have shown that long campaigns can bring in the sales, even if they're nothing like they used to be.