November 6, 20232 yr Now And Then definitely would have been Xmas No.1 wouldn't it, with the added hype of the Xmas chart battle too. I guess the label released it now to help sell the album reissues though in the lucrative Q4 period.
November 6, 20232 yr Totally removing Christmas songs from the chart every year/shifting them into a catalogue or holiday chart would be silly, even sillier than ACR and 3-track rule in terms of misleading charts. They are the most popular songs at this time of year so they dominate the charts. It's rather simple... for some it's a really lonely and isolating time and having the same Christmas songs year after year thrusted upon us doesn't help. Surely the music helps the 'lonely' people cheer up/feel more festive? Seems a bad argument tbh
November 6, 20232 yr I hope Prada can dodge DCL-3 if it means that it will go #1 next week by doing so As far as I’m aware it had a small increase last week so won’t be at risk of ACR for a few weeks yet
November 6, 20232 yr Regarding Xmas songs, the media don’t seem to help either. They shove the same Xmas songs down peoples ears. The reason why it’s always the same songs year after year is because for instance when they play Xmas music in a programme which is set at Xmas for instance, they only seem to use Wham! or Mariah
November 6, 20232 yr Without LadBaby songs it's the same top 2 (Mariah and Wham) every year. :( Sadly Beatles didn't release the last single on Christmas week. But there’s no evidence that will happen forever indeed if a huge pop star released a big single on Xmas week with sales currently they could easily debut at the top and stay there through January!
November 6, 20232 yr Regarding Xmas songs, the media don’t seem to help either. They shove the same Xmas songs down peoples ears. The reason why it’s always the same songs year after year is because for instance when they play Xmas music in a programme which is set at Xmas for instance, they only seem to use Wham! or Mariah What media do you mean? I’ve been monitoring the BBC stations in the past few years and both play and extensive list of seasonal songs old and new - R1 def play songs by current artists even if they are covers compared to R2!
November 6, 20232 yr As far as I’m aware it had a small increase last week so won’t be at risk of ACR for a few weeks yet We don't actually know if it increased or not last week, depends on if its pure sales dropped by more than 21 units or not (seems reasonable to guess they did but not certain). I think we'll only know for sure in next week's First Look. (Unless it does have a proper increase this week anyway, although it's down a few hundred from its Monday midweek numbers last week).
November 6, 20232 yr What media do you mean? I’ve been monitoring the BBC stations in the past few years and both play and extensive list of seasonal songs old and new - R1 def play songs by current artists even if they are covers compared to R2! I’m on about TV programmes
November 6, 20232 yr I’m on about TV programmes This morning plays one more sleeps, underneath the tree , a lot of buble :blink:
November 6, 20232 yr This morning plays one more sleeps, underneath the tree , a lot of buble :blink: I remember when festive period This Morning in the 00s played Robbie Williams 'Walk This Sleigh', only the chorus though not the rap verses! Edited November 6, 20232 yr by TheSnake
November 6, 20232 yr Surely the music helps the 'lonely' people cheer up/feel more festive? Seems a bad argument tbh Not for me it doesn't,
November 7, 20232 yr Most of the "build up to Christmas" memes I see are about Mariah defrosting (used to be Bublé but it's progressed to Mariah) I'd love to know the history of this meme because I'm convinced that it's an Australian concoction (we tend to punch above our capita on observational pop culture humour) that so casually crept worldwide that nobody questioned the fact that it only makes sense somewhere it's regularly around 38°C on Christmas Day. I don’t think many people are obsessed with it at all - what you’ve got instead is an absolutely enormous volume of people listening to it casually and occasionally, and that’s enough. 100% this as well. It's a pretty small percentage of the population in general that's interacting with Christmas music. It's accentuated on the charts since over time (esp. with streaming), new current hits just don't make the zeitgeist the way they used to. Considering how much they need to be propped up by incidental streams, it doesn't paint an optimistic picture. (But also it doesn't help when it inevitably takes over the conversation as well. Like I've seen so many people talk about Christmas music, good or bad, that it's gonna inevitably be on my mind and a differently willed-me might be inclined to refresh listen on those. Haven't seen a soul talk about how great Tkay Maidza's new album is, and so it was more unlikely I'd go out of my way to hear it. It is great though, she's so perpetually underrated).
November 7, 20232 yr what shouldn't count in my opinion is when shopping malls/stores/supermarkets have a xmas playlist on a loop with the same 10 songs 10 times x day, that's wrong imo, shopping mall streams shouldn't count for the charts
November 7, 20232 yr what shouldn't count in my opinion is when shopping malls/stores/supermarkets have a xmas playlist on a loop with the same 10 songs 10 times x day, that's wrong imo, shopping mall streams shouldn't count for the charts Shops don’t just stick on Spotify, they have their own way of playing music but I imagine it doesn’t count to the charts. None of Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, Amazon Music etc are allowed to be used outside of personal use.
November 7, 20232 yr Hopefully Ellie Goulding will team up with Alexa and release another Christmas classic that will go to number 1.
November 7, 20232 yr Dear me let’s hope Alexa has something more inspiring than Firebabe in store for us. :drama:
November 7, 20232 yr The fact that Wham have overtaken Mariah on Spotify today instead of late November/early December suggests to me that more people are in fact actively listening to Christmas music as opposed to just listening to playlists. When its passive playlist listening, Mariah gets more streams as she’s #1 on every playlist, and when this switches to active streaming Wham overtakes as its more popular
November 7, 20232 yr AIWFCIY might have sold more than LC in total but if you take streams out, the latter has actually sold more than the former
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