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It's free-falling on iTunes now (out of the top 10 in the UK) and as far as I can see it didn't make top 50 on any Spotify market anywhere. One of the most remarkable misfires I think I've ever seen since I have followed pop music closely. The stars seemed to be aligning for her and then... this.

 

I imagined in an alternate universe the song being produced by literally ANYONE else, the video featuring Kesha (her ""friend"" as Katy said) and other women who need a bit of love and support and the whole campaign being a joyous uplifting moment of celebration for women. What we got, was the exact opposite.

Dr Luke’s involvement is definitely a big talking point but I don’t think it’s like a common knowledge thing unless you follow forums like this or chart accounts / music stats accounts on social media so your average person who’s just a music listener with a streaming account or who’s got the radio on at home or when driving to work etc will have just heard this as being a new single from Katy Perry and i honestly think the song itself is just too stale and too dated for it to have been a hit regardless of who’d produced it.

 

Another thing here though is surely her team would’ve advised in some way against this. Even someone who doesn’t follow the charts could’ve seen this video and song combination was a pretty poor idea. I genuinely can’t work out if Katy herself has just pretty much dictated behind the scenes what’s going on (I mean I do think she’s wanted bigger commercial success this time around and tried to go out and chase a big hit) but it’s not really worked here and I don’t think she’s anywhere near as clued up as she was a decade ago with the choices that she’s making but are her team as clueless as her here? They must’ve checked socials prior to this and seen for weeks and weeks now that there wasn’t an awful lot of positivity regarding that song and his work.

 

Very interested to now see what happens with the rest of the campaign and if anything can be salvaged here but I think she’s thrown away quite a chunk of goodwill here which might be tricky to get back. Katy always had a pretty big casual fanbase back at her peak that’s who gave her the success that she’s had but with a sound like this now in 2024 I don’t think many will be as interested.

 

 

Around the Smile era she just kept throwing out too many songs at the wall, too many of them were mediocre (never worn white, small talk, smile), that no one cared by the time the album was out. People were really ready after a 4 year gap and she’s really thrown it away. She has no one but herself to blame:
I’m not sure why anyone was expecting a huge comeback for Katy. She had 3 really successful eras, with the middle one being an epic and enduring success but the sad truth of it is, she just isn’t talented enough to have prolonged success over decades. She has very much always been reliant on the material and buzz and both are lacking for her now. She isn’t a strong enough vocalist to make anything work and by the looks of this single, she’s completely misread the room several times over. Some artists can have big comebacks after lacklustre eras-Gaga, Beyoncé, etc. but they’re worlds more musically talented than Katy.
I’m not sure why anyone was expecting a huge comeback for Katy. She had 3 really successful eras, with the middle one being an epic and enduring success but the sad truth of it is, she just isn’t talented enough to have prolonged success over decades. She has very much always been reliant on the material and buzz and both are lacking for her now. She isn’t a strong enough vocalist to make anything work and by the looks of this single, she’s completely misread the room several times over. Some artists can have big comebacks after lacklustre eras-Gaga, Beyoncé, etc. but they’re worlds more musically talented than Katy.

 

I think because in the past few years there had been a swelling of goodwill around her online, nostalgia for her era of pop music, her discography streaming well, and with pop! artists like Chappell Roan smashing it wasn't a stretch to feel like a Katy Perry comeback could be well received. Perhaps not a huge comeback, but at least one similar to 'Never Really Over' — it's a wasted opportunity she won't get again. All that goodwill was completely squandered and now she's in a worse spot than when the internet was (unfairly) coming after her during 'Witness'.

 

People are hypocritical enough (and maybe don't care enough) that the Dr Luke production could have been overlooked with the right song — and perhaps they were banking on that, but what a huge risk when she's held to a different standard than someone like Kim Petras. It's mind-boggling. We live in the era of TikTok takedowns — ask Jennifer Lopez, whose only crime was being cringeworthy and in love. It was completely avoidable, and she could have had a fresh start with new producers. I thought her sound this era would be a fresh spin on her first two eras, not a 'Stupid Love' redux when that song was barely a hit in the first place.

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I feel like I'm listening to a different song to almost everyone else. To me this is insanely catchy (I really wish I could have been listening to it on repeat) and is just an almost perfect pop song. The video is fantastic too...

 

My only criticism (which is the same for a lot of songs at the moment) is that it's too short. Basically, I don't want it to end without a middle 8. I guess my tastes are that far away from the general listener these days (maybe I'm in my dated nostalgia era? Because this sounds FRESH to me)

Underperforming eras aside, did anyone think it'd be out of the top 200 on day 2!? :mellow: I'm totally in shock at this massacre. Although her music wasn't massive she had a few sizeable hits and was on American Idol for the years in between, is gigantic on social media in terms of followers etc. That's exposure too!

 

The video also has more dislikes than likes now (which I assume is just stans of other artists/haters going for it, but still).

I like this more than the majority of her post-Prism music (the exceptions being "Swish Swish" and "Never Really Over" - yes, I'd rather listen to this than "Chained to the Rhythm"), the chorus is rather catchy, the music video is quite fun (I'd just been watching a video about Trisha Paytas, and then watched the music video straight after, so screamed when she popped up). I do think some of the reactions have been a bit extreme and it's not been nice to watch the pile on that's taken place all over the internet and social media.

 

I'm not sure how much I'd re-visit it going forward though because the Dr Luke thing does taint it. The fact it's meant to be a women's empowerment anthem, and he's involved, can't really be looked past and it's right for that to be called out.

Excuse me but Chained to the Rhythm is a solid 10/10 this is a solid 3/10 at best.

 

Actually if she released CTTR now it would probably be a top 5 hit as is very Espresso

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Excuse me but Chained to the Rhythm is a solid 10/10 this is a solid 3/10 at best.

 

Actually if she released CTTR now it would probably be a top 5 hit as is very Espresso

 

Well it was a top 5 hit when it was released, so that makes sense!

Her label have probably lost so much money from this era, but honestly, I'd scrap the Luke tracks on the album, and cut my losses if I were her, she's close to a billionaire, so it would be pocket money to just recycle those vinyls and start afresh. I think seeing through this mess of an era is only going to do more harm than good.
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