My approach will pay off eventua...

My approach will pay off eventually, says Kemi Badenoch

The Conservative leader defends her leadership as the party's conference begins in Manchester

One of the most unintentionally funny headlines the BBC has done in a while. Big Prem manager on a losing streak energy.

3 hours ago, TheSnake said:

Oh my at the half-empty reception for the Mel Stride speech

It’s Absolutely wonderful to see! Jenerick can smell blood. Hope things improve though as I want her to lead them into 2029/30!

12 hours ago, Iz 🌟 said:

My approach will pay off eventua...

My approach will pay off eventually, says Kemi Badenoch

The Conservative leader defends her leadership as the party's conference begins in Manchester

One of the most unintentionally funny headlines the BBC has done in a while. Big Prem manager on a losing streak energy.

That's literally a copy and paste job from Ruben Amorim 🤣

So, I'm bringing this up here because Tory Jenrick keeps raising it - I'm honestly alarmed and quite disgusted at a lot of the rhetoric I'm seeing right now that basically equates brown person in the UK = not British, immigrant, shouldn't be here.

I'm seeing talk like "I was in X English city or town & all I saw was a sea of brown faces" & I'm like. So what? That doesn't suggest WHATSOEVER that everyone there was an immigrant.

Wouldn't you bloody know it too. I googled Jenrick to make sure I had the party right and... his wife is an immigrant. You couldn't bloody make it up.

There's always an attempt to claim that the attacks are against migration but not to do with race. I don't know about Handsworth in particular but Birmingham as a whole is under 50% white but over 70% UK-born, which is a gap will only increase over time. As conservatives run out of road to radicalise anti-migrant discourse, the direction of travel is more frequent and explicit references to race regardless of migration status.

I'd be interested to see if he or anybody else who agrees with his statement has a comment on vast swathes of the UK being almost universally White British and whether that suggests anything about integration of those areas. At 96% White British his constituency of Newark is up there.

You’d think Jenerick was Tory leader the way the media are reporting on the Tory conference!

On 07/10/2025 at 15:55, Harve said:

There's always an attempt to claim that the attacks are against migration but not to do with race. I don't know about Handsworth in particular but Birmingham as a whole is under 50% white but over 70% UK-born, which is a gap will only increase over time. As conservatives run out of road to radicalise anti-migrant discourse, the direction of travel is more frequent and explicit references to race regardless of migration status.

I'd be interested to see if he or anybody else who agrees with his statement has a comment on vast swathes of the UK being almost universally White British and whether that suggests anything about integration of those areas. At 96% White British his constituency of Newark is up there.

People seem absolutely obsessed with race being the divider when it seems more likely in nearly every case where it is brought up that the dividing factor will actually be income or class.

Jenrick really walked around one of the most deprived areas of the country and then made that comment. You might as well walk around a slum in Argentina or Brazil and observe 'wow, you don't see many rich faces here!'

The Tories and Reform THEMSELVES make the argument that immigrants are coming to the UK and working mostly very-low-paid or insecure jobs. Then they walk around a very deprived area where only the poorest people can afford to live and see... exactly the people they have already observed are doing such jobs and so can't afford to live anywhere else. It's like they are double-bagging this issue.

What would the solve possibly be? Force white middle-class people to move out of their neighbourhoods into these deprived areas?

Jenrick knew what he was doing when he made those comments.

Jenrick sacked for being a snake. Loads more Tories in talks to join Reform.

Really does seem like the end of the Conservatives and the Reform being the purple Tories.

Interestingly, I thought over the last month or two that Badenoch was doing a bit better and the amount of ex-Tories joining Reform is starting to worsen their image.

Yeh it could backfire as it might make them more one nation and reform look like the loonies only taking in tories so they can’t act like they stand for everyone.

As for Jenerick he really is a horrible person!

2 hours ago, Iz様 🌟 said:

Interestingly, I thought over the last month or two that Badenoch was doing a bit better and the amount of ex-Tories joining Reform is starting to worsen their image.

I feel their own way to survive really is to shred the ultra right Tories and pivot back towards the Centre with some more moderate folk in the Party and some sensible politics with a tinge of nationalism

4 hours ago, Rooney said:

Jenrick sacked for being a snake. Loads more Tories in talks to join Reform.

Really does seem like the end of the Conservatives and the Reform being the purple Tories.

Unlikely, as evil Tories have such a historical base, but it wouldn't be the first time... see, the Whigs, BUT the new party would just be the Tories, so it'd basically be a rebranding essentially... and they'd be just as difficult to end as a party, as ir would be the Tories anyway

Jenrick with Reform now, though the shock of his defection somewhat taken out by Badenoch outplaying him.

She wins for now, and tbh I don't see what Jenrick adds to Reform as an unlikeable busybody who's also incredibly untrustworthy. He's loud, I suppose, so another gadfly to add to Reform's lineup of dislikeable arseholes.

Kemi played this one very well, taking the wind out of Robert Jenrick’s sails by turning the narrative from “leading member of the shadow cabinet defects to Reform in massive blow to Badenoch’s reputation” to “Jenrick runs off to Reform after being sacked by decisive Badenoch”.

Badenoch has been getting more plaudits for PMQ’s the past few weeks, even from people who had thought she was a dead woman walking, but the past few weeks her leadership has gone from “when she is challenged for the leadership”, to “IF she is challenged for the leadership”, to “after she leads the Tories into the next election.” Whilst I’m terrible at prognosticating, I wonder if this is the moment that Reform begins its descent in the polling (their defection of Nadhim Zahari earlier in the week went down like a lead balloon, with one commenter mentioned that it simultaneously brought up the collective IQ of both the Tories and Reform UK), and the Tories to start rebuilding as the party on the centre-right of politics.

The whole story has been fascinating to watch all day. It’s like something out of a political drama, with Badenoch as Francis Urquart, and Jenrick as the unfortunate Nicola Murray figure.

1 hour ago, Brett-Butler said:

Kemi played this one very well, taking the wind out of Robert Jenrick’s sails by turning the narrative from “leading member of the shadow cabinet defects to Reform in massive blow to Badenoch’s reputation” to “Jenrick runs off to Reform after being sacked by decisive Badenoch”.

Badenoch has been getting more plaudits for PMQ’s the past few weeks, even from people who had thought she was a dead woman walking, but the past few weeks her leadership has gone from “when she is challenged for the leadership”, to “IF she is challenged for the leadership”, to “after she leads the Tories into the next election.” Whilst I’m terrible at prognosticating, I wonder if this is the moment that Reform begins its descent in the polling (their defection of Nadhim Zahari earlier in the week went down like a lead balloon, with one commenter mentioned that it simultaneously brought up the collective IQ of both the Tories and Reform UK), and the Tories to start rebuilding as the party on the centre-right of politics.

The whole story has been fascinating to watch all day. It’s like something out of a political drama, with Badenoch as Francis Urquart, and Jenrick as the unfortunate Nicola Murray figure.

Kemi is polling better than she has in favourability and I saw a recent poll which put all party leaders against each other and she came out top against everyone... We might just see reform drop like a lead balloon with a conservative come back. I'm hoping not enough to prevent the vote split between reform & cons!

Badenoch is surely enjoying her best period as Troy leader. She was able to portray Zahawi as throwing his toys out of the pram because the poor diddums didn't get a peerage. Now she has acted decisivley over Jenrick and can do her best to ensure he is seen as just a sore loser. I can't help feeling that someone close to Jenrick deliberately left a copy of his speech lying around.

waiT i need both parties to have ups and downs so the right votes will be split and we have a Green+Lib Dem government

Why do people think Badenoch has played this well?? It could be argued she looks weak because it’s taken her 14 months to sack him and only did when he was going to jump ship.