6 minutes ago, shadow2009 said:

Logically it would make sense to murder Faraaz but from a viewer perspective him suddenly showing a personality and sussing Rachel out could provide some much needed suspense and drama for the final episodes and I think with him gone it just makes a Traitors win a bit too....easy? They need something to make us think they're going to fail.

Also I'm a little uncomfortable with the way Roxy speaks to James. She clearly can't stand him and boy does it show! I felt bad for him when he was alone at the Round Table after the banishment.

Unless Faraaz does get murdered, but then someone else (like Jack) leads the charge against Rachel. It feels like Jack has been featuring more and more. I know there are only 7 left, but his focus feels like he gets to end game or something.

Jack would have been their perfect murder tonight but of course, he’s shielded. I think they will go for Faraaz and risk it like they did with Jessie. He won’t let the suspicions go. Roxy gunning for James is too useful to throw away.

I just don’t want Roxy on my screen anymore.

As frustrating as Roxy is to watch (hilariously so though, her essentially asking Rachel if she's a traitor and that clearing things up was gold), she's a useful idiot and will help in getting both traitors to the final, which I am hoping for at this point as they've played a fantastic game and the rest of the faithfuls aren't especially rootable except Jade who I think has held herself together well, I think they'd be taking a huge risk not murdering Faraaz, it will certainly come back on Rachel, but keeping him in feels too risky and he won't have the same self-destructive nature that Fiona and Harriet did.

I do agree that there may be something in the edit for Jack though, I still find him incredibly uninteresting though it would fit in with last year's winners.

I'd be surprised if Rachel and Steven made it another round table together, feel like they need to throw some bait to the faithfuls ahead of the final.

Faraaz has put his views out there now so they're all heard it and he seems really unlikely to shift from going all in now... but the edit definitely made it look like they had chosen Roxy with them saying they need to really rely on each other more than ever now - which in turn makes me think they did choose Faraaz.

If I were Rachel I'd choose to get rid of him and control the narrative myself more, rather than leave him in and risk him controlling it. The balance feels like she has more to lose if he stays.

Jack is probably the most boring long running contestant I’ve ever seen on any series of this show and I’ll be really annoyed if he wins.

Like, can anyone name anything he’s done?? Roxy at least gave us the ‘likeable’ meme and has been in some drama, and James had drama when he stole the shield and at least has a memorable personality (which for some reason rubs everyone the wrong way) and Faraaz at least was in that funny cow milking task and known as being the laid back Asian lad who everyone likes……I genuinely can’t think of anything that Jack has said or done in the entire series?

He got milked by Faraaz… that’s all I’ve got 🤣

What an intense round table, I think the power definitely went to James’ head with the dagger and he’s dug his own grave in how loudly he was pushing for matty only for him to be revealed as faithful, I think he’s gonna he banished tomorrow. That was good gameplay from Faraaz to keep his suspicions and generally just keep quiet up until the final stages and then fall her out so boldly, I do think they will have to murder him as he’ll be to convincing and could sway the likes of Jack & roxy to vote out Rachel, and seeing how she’s done so far I could see her worming her way out or pinning it on James somehow.

That turret scene did worry me, I have absolutely loved Rachel & Stephen as the traitors, I think they’re my favourite pair and I’d hate to see it crumble now at the end, she did make a fair point as if they continue to not name each other the rest will notice but I hope it’s not gonna be a case that they’ll actively turn on each other

Ha good old Faraaz! Easily the smartest one left (albeit out of a terrible bunch)

 

Unfort he will prob be murdered because of his suspicions BUT maybe he purposely brought it up ?

I really quite liked Rachel's "getting a shield as a traitor gives you one less emotion to feel" 😁

King Faraaz to win!

I’m in the minority here clearly but Stephen to me is insufferable (reminds me a lot of someone who used to be in my life so mild PTSD there 😅) but he constantly looks so guilty going bright red all the time and the worried look of panic on his face. Rachel’s preferable but I still don’t root for her.

I wouldn’t mind a faithfuls win if faraaz and Jade were among them but he’s suspicious of her 🫠 !

I still don’t think any result will be as bad as last years winners though.

Faraaz would be my preferred winner now as he’s kept it quiet on purpose but he has decent evidence for his theory. A murder of him tonight would prob still lead to the others to lose suspicion of Rachel as they are easily manipulated like through the rest of the series!

Matt on Uncloaked, when he mentioned two Traitors have been caught. I was thinking "we've only got one, haven't we?"

... Totally forgot Hugo existed

Faraaz has probably left it too late - agree that Roxy is up there with Meryl as one of most useless traitors we've seen. The problem (and it must be hard) is people put friendships before gameplay and forget they are actually in a game. Jack and Roxy are the usless idiots, Jade is there as people will always vote for her and James has been utterly manipulated. Faraaz would be the play to get murdered.

The edit must be really clever and put together as I cannot believe that James (or other players) did not consider for a minute that James had been set up and it played out exactly how the Traitors thought it would. I cant see past a traitor victory at this point unless Jack pipes up and connects the dots (unlikely). At this point I'm kind of here for a Rachel stabbing Roxy in the back moment though to make for better TV.

Cannot stand Faraaz and his increased prominence has me skipping a lot more of the episodes!!! Get him out!!!

Rachel AND Steven to win!

I can't stand James. He looks, sounds and talks just like someone who is forced into my life and I hate them with everything I have. I've literally wanted James out since episode one.

The only reason I wanted him to stay in last night is to get Matt out, as I want a Traitors win and he was onto them.

Faraaz would be an underwhelming winner as he doesn't seem to have been that prominent during the series.

I really think this is shaping up to a Rachel vs Stephen for the final hurdle. Maybe ever a Split or Steal, if they will do that in the UK version.

I’m not sure if I just instinctively want the traitors to win due to the nature of the programme but in both series I’ve watched (this and celebrity) I’ve had zero interest in seeing an outcome where the faithfuls win. I’ll be so underwhelmed if we do end up with a Jack/Jade/Roxy/Faraaz victory

6 minutes ago, dandy* said:

I’m not sure if I just instinctively want the traitors to win due to the nature of the programme but in both series I’ve watched (this and celebrity) I’ve had zero interest in seeing an outcome where the faithfuls win. I’ll be so underwhelmed if we do end up with a Jack/Jade/Roxy/Faraaz victory

I do think it depends on who the Traitors are/ who the Faithful are.

This Series the Traitors have been strong and the Faithful has been weak and chasing their own tale. The Celeb one was kind of the same - in fact I think its the furthest the Traitors have gone without even 1 being discovered.

For Series 1-3 I kinda flopped between the two camps depending on what was going on. The first series I wanted a Traitor win until the final episode (for instance).

It does feel though that the Series 4 and Celeb Faithful have been weaker than usual.

Someone on the TraitorsUK sub on Reddit just spoiled the ending!! Avoid at all costs!!

8 minutes ago, ElectroBoy said:

I do think it depends on who the Traitors are/ who the Faithful are.

This Series the Traitors have been strong and the Faithful has been weak and chasing their own tale. The Celeb one was kind of the same - in fact I think its the furthest the Traitors have gone without even 1 being discovered.

For Series 1-3 I kinda flopped between the two camps depending on what was going on. The first series I wanted a Traitor win until the final episode (for instance).

It does feel though that the Series 4 and Celeb Faithful have been weaker than usual.

The Faithful are pretty useless in most series though. It’s part of the game and I do think it is exceptionally hard. Even though James got it completely wrong I understood his logic and at least he had a theory and stuck to it. There’s a huge element of luck as a faithful.

The issue is and where the faithful always come unstuck is they either are so rubbish they continually get manipulated. Or they get a theory in their head which they cannot shake (see Leanne with Alexander last year).

With this year in particular I don’t think there’s been anything to really shake the traitors up. Or they got the right luck in the right moments (see Rachel getting the mirror to ask a question to the traitors).

14 minutes ago, Rooney said:

With this year in particular I don’t think there’s been anything to really shake the traitors up. Or they got the right luck in the right moments (see Rachel getting the mirror to ask a question to the traitors).

They've also been helped by both of the attacks which did come - Fiona/ Harriet - being done in such a mad/ OTT way. Similar with James yesterday - nothing was calm or reasoned. In fact the Faithful which have gone out on a limb kind of unravelled with it - same with Amanda when she went all in on her theory.

As soon as an issue has come up, its managed to be dealt with in the next show - either through banishment or murder. So there hasn't been any growing fires/ seeds which have been allowed to grow in a big way.