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post Thursday, 10:02 AM
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Lana Del Rey has confirmed her upcoming 7th album (previously said to be titled 'White Hot Forever', though I imagine that may change) will be released on September 5th in an Insta post which also dismisses. claims that her lyrics “glamorize abuse”.

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post Thursday, 10:16 AM
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she didn't say which year so probably September 2021, knowing how all Lana releases work biggrin.gif
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post Thursday, 10:53 AM
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It's hard to be excited about this album after reading that.

Commenting on (mostly) black women and using their sexuality against them with problematic rhetoric — only to tie it into some gibberish point before announcing her new album. Lana just had the critically acclaimed album of 2019 — this was completely unnecessary and disappointing.
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post Thursday, 11:12 AM
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she seems to have any issue with other black female singers, it was on one of her recent songs (Hope is a dangerous thing)
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post Thursday, 11:15 AM
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God I cannot stand her pretentious ass, absolutely no need to tear down successful black woman just because you've barely got a point to make about your latest album which will sound the same as the depressing last 6 :')
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post Thursday, 11:20 AM
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I didn't read it as an attack on those artists at all? Just that everyone should be able to create the music they want. Can't deny it all sounds pretentious though.
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post Thursday, 11:26 AM
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I’m not completely sure I get her point? All the artists she mentioned get shit constantly for their sexuality, If anything I’d argue Lana gets the least hate for her lyrics and what’s she’s saying out of the majority of people she mentioned
Anyway she completely lost me when she said “I’m not a feminist” in the year 2020. I’m a fan of her music but I can’t really say I’m a fan of her
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post Thursday, 11:41 AM
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I get her point that she is fed up of being said to 'glamourise abuse', it is just badly worded. Mentioning any other names brings up both a direct comparison between them and a whole fanbase who will see this as an attack before anything else.

She does come across as having a 'better than' opinion of those artists but I read it as - if there's a place for these artists to have success, why not me? I do think the whole post is unnecessary and probably should have been left in the drafts or her diary as on the face of it she is a very successful album artist even if these comments are still being said.

Also @LMLou she said she is 'not not a feminist' meaning that she is a feminist. The fact that two-thirds of those artists are black of course will get nit-picked, but isn't that just a demonstration of the success black female artists are able to have in 2020?
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post Thursday, 11:54 AM
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Oh I completely misread that part, I understand the sentiment a bit more now then. I’ve seen quite a lot of people misread that part maybe she should’ve wrote “I am a feminist” to avoid people Misreading
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QUOTE(LMLou @ May 21 2020, 12:54 PM) *
Oh I completely misread that part, I understand the sentiment a bit more now then. I’ve seen quite a lot of people misread that part maybe she should’ve wrote “I am a feminist” to avoid people Misreading


I agree! This definitely should have been slept on or re-read before posting laugh.gif
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She could've made the point without bringing in other names. Eeek, I love Lana but this just comes off wrong and bitter.
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post Thursday, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Liam.k. @ May 21 2020, 12:20 PM) *
I didn't read it as an attack on those artists at all? Just that everyone should be able to create the music they want. Can't deny it all sounds pretentious though.


Saying there has to be a place for women who look and act like her ('delicate') and then listing successful women of colour as contrast is both ignorant and incredibly problematic. She is boiling them down to sexual objects and using their sexuality as a means to discredit their experiences and music — like all of them haven't been shamed for their sexuality before. Peak white feminism.
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post Thursday, 01:42 PM
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I can't claim to be a huge Lana fan but on first read I just thought it was stan twitter doing the most but going over it again I don't see how she can compare lyrics about abuse to those girls? Like she might have a smidgeon of a point if she hadn't dropped those names. Really queen?
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post Thursday, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ May 21 2020, 02:33 PM) *
Saying there has to be a place for women who look and act like her ('delicate') and then listing successful women of colour as contrast is both ignorant and incredibly problematic. She is boiling them down to sexual objects and using their sexuality as a means to discredit their experiences and music — like all of them haven't been shamed for their sexuality before. Peak white feminism.

Okay on second thoughts it definitely is ignorant and problematic. I still don't think it was intended to be an attack on them but I think she ought to re-evaluate what she put.
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QUOTE(Liam.k. @ May 21 2020, 02:47 PM) *
Okay on second thoughts it definitely is ignorant and problematic. I still don't think it was intended to be an attack on them but I think she ought to re-evaluate what she put.


It's worse than an attack on them. She's playing the victim to announce her new album at the expense of women of colour — intentional or not — and clearly ignorant enough not to realise that.


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post Thursday, 02:00 PM
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The artists that actually benefit from showing their bodies, being sexual etc — without any shame attached, are men. 6ix9ine is more successful than ever — even after paedophilia charges. There is a point there somewhere about the industry and the double-standards in music, but she missed it.
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That whole first sentence is just a mess and it only gets worse what is she doing lmao
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post Thursday, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ May 21 2020, 03:00 PM) *
The artists that actually benefit from showing their bodies, being sexual etc — without any shame attached, are men. 6ix9ine is more successful than ever — even after paedophilia charges. There is a point there somewhere about the industry and the double-standards in music, but she missed it.

Very true.
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QUOTE(Klumzeased* @ May 21 2020, 11:41 AM) *
Also @LMLou she said she is 'not not a feminist' meaning that she is a feminist. The fact that two-thirds of those artists are black of course will get nit-picked, but isn't that just a demonstration of the success black female artists are able to have in 2020?


That's true, although I do think I remember her saying before she wasn't interested in feminism, or something similar to that. And writing I'm not not a feminist still seems quite strange, I mean it's obviously up to her and she is allowed her own feelings and opinions, but it is interesting to me. Having said that, the whole post is 'interesting' and I don't mean it in a positive way.

I am still looking forward to the album, because she rarely disappoints music-wise, but comments like this don't really work for me.
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What was she thinking with this...wrong on so many levels. So disappointing.
I agree there is a point to make about double standards in the industry but this is most definitely not it. It just comes across as so self-righteous and ignorant.
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